Lmao yes exactly. With dijon doing Ab libs in the background. Song sounds like it would fit right in between God in Wilson and did you see it on absolutely

Hot take.

Tyler the Creator should have been involved in the making of this album. He would’ve given it that extra push it needs to get over the hump. Plus he’s a huge Bieber fan. A&R dropped the ball on this one. We need a Bieber interview.

and bro hitting that "settledown" s*** on way it is

the black and mild running gag is hilarious man idk

Carti influence on cover .

Tripping on GO BABY and THINGS YOU DO

Def the standouts for me… also like 405

yikes

Justice >>>>

but this is cool

justice was so good

Does YUKON give anyone else slight Frank vibes?

you might be the first person ever to say that

Bieber working with them before Tyler is such a slap in the face lmfao

Haven't stopped playing this.

Counter hot take

F*** no, wouldnt mix at all

who cares

no because if it had frank vibes it wouldnt have been released

Tyler shouldn’t have talked about wanting to suck JB’s d***, maybe he would’ve been invited to the studio session then

Dream pop vibes

the falsetto ending in BUTTERFLIES

agreed, this style of production but with actually interesting songwriting and chords which niggas like dijon and mkgee are lowkey are either incapable of or not interested in no offense would've been goated. i really dont mean it as an insult, it's just that most of their music is diatonic and major key/pop sounding despite the interesting production. i like a lot of it but it gets boring after a while. think like bon iver songs which are almost all generic chords wise even if the prod gets crazy. real r&b needs blues and jazz

for example ive been spinning back a lot of gap band lately and just listen to the chords in this one especially at around the 30 second mark. this could've been a simple sweet r&b ballad but theyre masters so they throw in some nice curveballs in there on some stevie wonder s***. not to mention charlie sangs as usual. i could post a million examples this is just the one that literally happened to be in my headphones ahaha

s*** i could post some actual JB as an example. this one is from his best album and it aint close btw. anyway yeah tyler would've definitely provided him songwriting gas let alone his usual unique prod.

Albums defo falls off from DADZ LOVE onwards

Still some great songs in that run but nowhere near as good as what came before that point

i dont have any basis to disagree but i hope the opposite like crazy. i took this album as him finally having the courage to make actually interesting music again and getting a creative second wind but we'll see ig. i still prefer journals but this is still the most interesting thing he's dropped since then for me

Yeah sounds like Bieber is about to disappear edge us for the next decade

gave this an honest listen

and it’s solid, this is the direction JB should have been going in for the past decade