charisma is prolly most important aspect of rapping

and what separates it from poetry

are we really still acting like hov rapped better on WTT

niggas love to hate

recency bias

now compare this to songs like jesus lord or even keep my spirit alive

more meaning to what kanye raps on those songs alone compared to the billionth made it out the hood song

Kanye hate on WTT is cognitive dissonance

are we even surprised

xxx, manson, dababy, r kelly, Chris brown… kanye will collaborate with anybody, regardless of their morals. it seems that he really does not care

(not defending it though, i really wish he didn’t)

This feels racist

I don’t agree it’s one factor, flow bars and vocal tone are about as important if we really having a convo about rapping

Charisma can carry you tho, ye and pac are the big examples of that, that’s the most favorable comparison for ye

These takes are haram 🤲🏻

id give jay NCITW and maybe 1-2 other tracks

every other track kanye renegaded

Kanye is the worst kind of contrarian. And he's a billionaire.

Even if you don’t compare him to Jay Z on the album he did his thing ESPECIALLY on Primetime

The best rapping on there is Welcome to the Jungle

Prime time, basking in the lime
Cassius in his prime, coloring out of the line
'Cause they don't want nobody that's colored out of the lines
So I'm late as a motherfucker, colored people time
Damn, Yeezy, they all gotta be dimes?
Well, Adam gave up a rib, so mine better be prime

I PAID FOR THEM TITTIES GET YOUR OWN

Contrarian billionaires are the worst kind of people ask elon musk

i don’t kanye or jay outrapped either on watch the throne they were pretty even throughout the whole thing they really became one

now kids see ghosts ik out rapping cudi ain’t hard but still

Primtime, beat by Dion, our third eon
That's what the f*** we on
Mo' money, forty year old phenom
My fifteen minutes of fame has stretched beyond
At forty two be better than twenty fours
I carried the 4-5, mastered 48 laws
Still wearing my 23s they can't f*** with the boy
Far as them 16s, I'm 23 of it all
Primetime, riding that six deuce
That 911 I only subtract the roof
Started in '88
Got warm in '92
I landed in '96
That's the year I came through

EITHER THEY KNOW OR DONT CARE IM F***IN DEPRESSED

THAT NIGGA WAS SPITTING F***

see this is your problem when you try to say jay was better

theres a lot of nice wordplay in there but kanyes verse is so much more quotable, impactful and delivered so much better

he a***yzing lyrics and not emotion or delivery

Completely disagree, this is probably one of my most quoted verses ever, ye verse is cool but not more impactful for me, I can see why people who don’t care for bars would be more interested in kanyes more simple in your face style

But jay flow better too