Oct 4, 2022·2 replies
capersBut also, lets have actual discourse...very few people are having actual discourse 95% of what im seeing is "stan" "dickriding" or "you would defend kanye shooting your mom" or "genius" with no explanation
This is agreeable.
Do you think an argument such as the following has merit:
Kanye is in a position of power and influence to inspire “positive” change in society, however you want to define that. While Kanye has no obligation to anyone but himself and perhaps his life, and can do as he pleaded with his life as a grown ass man…. That, at the very least the vast majority of black people would find that messaging given the current known facts of the situation disappointing or disheartening?
Impersonally think that kind of branding is actually a departure from the messaging he was sporting circa Yeezus and MAGA
Oct 4, 2022·2 replies
FRANK DUXnone of his rap lyrics about prison industrial complex made 200 page threads in a day
but 3 words on a shirt can
which is more effective in communicating / sparking discourse?
I mean even when his shirt said Free Hoover people just focused on the negative of Hoover acting like he would still be a menace to society
- Oct 4, 2022·1 reply
gnarlynastyLike,why wouldn't the shirt matter,the man is promoting WLM. The same way you drive past a billboard promoting car insurance is exactly how people consumed the contents of this shirt. They seen the shirt,they seen what it said,it said some f*** s*** and now people wanna talk,cause they want answers!
Its how promoting works
i dare you to wear it
Oct 4, 2022·1 replyHaroldsChickenI mean even when his shirt said Free Hoover people just focused on the negative of Hoover acting like he would still be a menace to society
true- Oct 4, 2022Marvin
This is agreeable.
Do you think an argument such as the following has merit:
Kanye is in a position of power and influence to inspire “positive” change in society, however you want to define that. While Kanye has no obligation to anyone but himself and perhaps his life, and can do as he pleaded with his life as a grown ass man…. That, at the very least the vast majority of black people would find that messaging given the current known facts of the situation disappointing or disheartening?
Impersonally think that kind of branding is actually a departure from the messaging he was sporting circa Yeezus and MAGA
Yeezy season 1 people joked that they looked homeless.
As in they made fun of the homeless
He now is talking about building homeless shelters and has been working on it
- Oct 4, 2022
Himothee
New Yeezy line go crazy
- Oct 4, 2022FRANK DUX
i dare you to wear it
If I was 17-18 I’d probably be dumb enough to wear it tbh
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replygnarlynasty
Like,why wouldn't the shirt matter,the man is promoting WLM. The same way you drive past a billboard promoting car insurance is exactly how people consumed the contents of this shirt. They seen the shirt,they seen what it said,it said some f*** s*** and now people wanna talk,cause they want answers!
Its how promoting works
You think Kanye West is promoting black oppression?
You really think that was his point with this? That he is anti-black and wants the world to be worse for black people?
OR
He is just anti cancel culture and trys to express that in terrible stupid ways?
Oct 4, 2022·1 replyWhere is the black man that stood up to Ye when he was at TMZ cooning?
He shoulda rocked ye when he had the chance smh
- Oct 4, 2022Babaláwo true
I think part of the point is that there is no winning because even when he made the message love everybody which the original emphasis was on his moms surgeon but for America that love was for Trump and Trump supporters people denied. When he had more reason to hate his moms surgeon than any of us have to personally hate Trump
Oct 4, 2022·1 replygnarlynastyLike,why wouldn't the shirt matter,the man is promoting WLM. The same way you drive past a billboard promoting car insurance is exactly how people consumed the contents of this shirt. They seen the shirt,they seen what it said,it said some f*** s*** and now people wanna talk,cause they want answers!
Its how promoting works
the difference btwn a billboard and a person though is that you know what a billboard is trying to do it's trying to inform you or persuade you into whatever is being presented on it. that's just how we conceptualize a billboard
people arent like that. he wore the shirt but he didnt even go so much as talk abt it. it wasnt even in his speech where he was alrdy goin into controversial waters. so he aint trying to sell you the idea like a billboard is. we just dunno what he was tryn to do with it. but that absence of an explanation doesn't mean that we can automatically conclude that his goal was to promote it in that consumeristic kinda way
Oct 4, 2022·4 replies
Phlegm
from someone on ig that was therewouldn't wear it myself though
He could have just said f*** classism, racism and gentrification of culture but no he knew that he would get support for it so he chose to be edgy because he has the brain of an angsty teenager
- Oct 4, 2022gnarlynasty
Like,why wouldn't the shirt matter,the man is promoting WLM. The same way you drive past a billboard promoting car insurance is exactly how people consumed the contents of this shirt. They seen the shirt,they seen what it said,it said some f*** s*** and now people wanna talk,cause they want answers!
Its how promoting works
"they want answers !"
is taking me out
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replycapers
You think Kanye West is promoting black oppression?
You really think that was his point with this? That he is anti-black and wants the world to be worse for black people?
OR
He is just anti cancel culture and trys to express that in terrible stupid ways?
I can see him being anti-cancel culture,oblivious to real people and thoughts,an attention w**** and a mediocre fashion designer
- Oct 4, 2022
by the end of this week no one will be talking about this
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replygnarlynasty
I can see him being anti-cancel culture,oblivious to real people and thoughts,an attention w**** and a mediocre fashion designer
He is all of those things but I don't think he is anti-black...
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replyHaroldsChicken
I mean even when his shirt said Free Hoover people just focused on the negative of Hoover acting like he would still be a menace to society
since biden came into office there has been no cultural conversation focused on white supremacy
people itt denying that all their rah rahing during trumps term about racial issues has been blatantly ignored by the cultural zeitgeist is a liar
today is first day in a while we having the conversation
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replyJeffersonSteelflex
He could have just said f*** classism, racism and gentrification of culture but no he knew that he would get support for it so he chose to be edgy because he has the brain of an angsty teenager
no he understands how to communicate a message in 2022 lmao
- Oct 4, 2022·1 reply
huey p rxcanwhite lives matter wow
i’m just sick that niggas co sign this more then i’m mad at ye
at least with ye it’s like “it’s provocative!! it gets the people going!!” kind of dumb s***, however with some of the these cacs..
- Oct 4, 2022·3 replies
The usual suspects getting baited by this and writing think pieces is exactly what I suspect Ye wants to get out of this. Best thing to do would be to ignore it and keep it pushing. “Oh Ye wylin again? What’s new?” Is the attitude most people should have to these kind of antics imo. If he saw he wasn’t getting any traction on Twitter n blogs etc he would change it up. But people feed into this for whatever reasons and continue to entertain it, which gives it further longevity.
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replyFRANK DUX
no he understands how to communicate a message in 2022 lmao
That’s not proper communication at all lol
- Oct 4, 2022JeffersonSteelflex
That’s not proper communication at all lol
this right now is the conversation fam
what’s happening on twitter is the conversation
people irl talking about it is the conversation
- Oct 4, 2022·1 replyfrenchpress
the difference btwn a billboard and a person though is that you know what a billboard is trying to do it's trying to inform you or persuade you into whatever is being presented on it. that's just how we conceptualize a billboard
people arent like that. he wore the shirt but he didnt even go so much as talk abt it. it wasnt even in his speech where he was alrdy goin into controversial waters. so he aint trying to sell you the idea like a billboard is. we just dunno what he was tryn to do with it. but that absence of an explanation doesn't mean that we can automatically conclude that his goal was to promote it in that consumeristic kinda way
I can agree with that,its just really bad art.
- Oct 4, 2022FRANK DUX
since biden came into office there has been no cultural conversation focused on white supremacy
people itt denying that all their rah rahing during trumps term about racial issues has been blatantly ignored by the cultural zeitgeist is a liar
today is first day in a while we having the conversation
I mean I think its also a play on "if you dont vote for me you are not black"
Oct 4, 2022·2 repliesJeffersonSteelflexHe could have just said f*** classism, racism and gentrification of culture but no he knew that he would get support for it so he chose to be edgy because he has the brain of an angsty teenager
Didn't he pretty much say that in his speech