cold mountain

2y

you could believe this and also believe that there's nothing inherently wrong with Jews as a people.

Does that make sense? That you could be against a small group of people who are Jews, and not generalize your feelings towards those people out to regular ass Jewish people.

For the record, the world isn't run by a cabal of Jews. I'm just saying Kanye isn't like "racist to Jewish people". The comments he makes are not directed at Jews as a people. That doesn't excuse them, I'm not trying to excuse anybody here. But it's the truth that he's got nothing against Jews as a people.

necromancer

2y

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you’re trying to defend the guy who thinks black people are inferior and wants military occupation of black neighborhoods and that the holocaust is BS

sarxoid

2y

B-b-but he said not all Jews are bad!! Come on guys, this Nick guy isn't that bad!!

necromancer

2y

you’re trying to defend the guy who thinks black people are inferior and wants military occupation of black neighborhoods and that the holocaust is BS

NunTheWiser

2y

We also gotta acknowledge the fact that somebody spewing antisemitism that says “there are good Jews” is like watching a member of the KKK say “there are good blacks”

It doesn’t sound as good as you think it does (however it’s bewildering anybody thinks it sounds good in the first place lol)

necromancer

2y

i dont like posting his clips around tbh because of how insane it is and people dont need to hear that garbage but just to show that theres hours of footage of violent white supremacist racism directly from his mouth and he’s dead serious about it

cold mountain

2y

oh it most definitely doesn't sound good.

But still, if you listen for yourself, Ye's clearly targeting his comments towards a specific group of people who are Jewish. To present his comments as attacks on Jewish people as a whole is disingenuous.

my point is, the question always gets asked "do you have a problem with Jews, or just a problem with Jewish individuals?" Well, the answer seems to be that he just has a problem with Jewish individuals.

necromancer

2y

you’re trying to defend the guy who thinks black people are inferior and wants military occupation of black neighborhoods and that the holocaust is BS

sarxoid

2y

What you're doing is disingenuous. The good will that you are providing is undeserved.

sarxoid

2y

B-b-but he said not all Jews are bad!! Come on guys, this Nick guy isn't that bad!!

frenchpress

2y

...........no1 is saying this

sarxoid

2y

..........someone literally said that he wasn't saying all Jews are bad on the last page.

sarxoid

2y

..........someone literally said that he wasn't saying all Jews are bad on the last page.

cold mountain

2y

oh it most definitely doesn't sound good.

But still, if you listen for yourself, Ye's clearly targeting his comments towards a specific group of people who are Jewish. To present his comments as attacks on Jewish people as a whole is disingenuous.

my point is, the question always gets asked "do you have a problem with Jews, or just a problem with Jewish individuals?" Well, the answer seems to be that he just has a problem with Jewish individuals.

NunTheWiser

2y

All I’m hearing you say at this point is you love MBDTF and it can’t be over

frenchpress

2y

which he did say, and even your ironic comment i replied to acknowledges that nick said that

but that's not the point at all. no1 discussin this s*** tonight has been interested in absolving nick or anythin like yall pretending they r. the point is that ppl were talking about ye's placement in this, to read it as a defense for nick is just misunderstanding it

NunTheWiser

2y

All I’m hearing you say at this point is you love MBDTF and it can’t be over

cold mountain

2y

look, if you don't care about a***yzing the strategies behind the Ye 24 campaign and how the media is treating Ye rn, that's fine. I have no problem with that. It's something I find very interesting, but I get that you're not me. Just don't check this thread then!

I'm not a blind Ye stan, I was actually one of the biggest Donda haters on this site. Musically, Ye hasn't moved me since TLOP. I just find the politics here to be super interesting. Stuff I never thought would happen is now happening, and i'm so curious as to what the consequences will be.

HaroldsChicken

2y

was going to drop a documentary that I had been working on since the beginning of pandemic then got depressed with job change so didn't fully assemble. I have been interviewing people in Chicago of all viewpoints pro trump, blue lives matter, black lives matter, homeless, christians who protest outside an abortion clinic,those who protect those walking into an abortion clinic,the leader of chinatown here when the pandemic just began. Part of the goal with the documentary when I eventually put it together is better understanding each other.

Example I covered a Trump protest lol was in a costume and in short some didn't like the costume I was wearing with one man physically attacking me then other trump supporters being like "what the f*** are you doing he is just here covering it". Its essentially a costume I wore so people knew I was just an observer or reporter but not there to dox them or anything just there to learn and hear what got them from a baby to believe whatever they believe.

sarxoid

2y

The consequences are a bunch of young Ye stan's being radicalized. It's dangerous.

NunTheWiser

2y

Yeah like this isn’t just some fascinating case study that exists in a vacuum without actual real life implications. But anytime someone in here criticizing Ye for literally riding with Nazis homie slides with some “well, actually pushes glasses up their nose” type energy