AYEKAY

7y

oh what the f*** dude, you just reminded me that I missed this weeks episode!!

I saw the Band In China one that one was hilarious hahaha

QueenKona

7y

JIK is great conceptually. The ideas from both a production standpoint and overall song-structure and rhythm standpoint are wonderful. The guests, choirs, and instrumentals are really unique. But, here’s the problem:

1. Many will be disappointed right off the bat because, well, this sound is new and not something to be expected of ye. Those who hate religious-focused music won’t be a fan, those with the expectations of drum-ridden bangers like old ye won’t be a fan, and those expecting deep lyrical content definitely won’t be a fan.

2. For those who actually admire this direction and the ideas, they are just pain executed poorly because:

(a) the vocal recording was done poorly or on the wrong equipment

(b) the mixes aren’t good, nor is the overall master to any song

and
(c) Kanye’s vocal performances are very lackluster. Not just lyrically, but he has no passion to his voice on many of these tracks. Not all, but most.

I’m part of camp 2, but even my admiration for this direction can’t save the rushed production and lack of vocal performance. Not to mention, everything is cut short.

Stardust

7y

Probably. I also think listening it there on the theatre with kanye's hyped ass made it more memorable and better to you, which is not necessarily a bad thing

the end

7y

God is makes me cry

New NIGHTMAN

7y

yup, i never understand that

i literally listen to anything in the whip

these kids think driving becomes a one man club

HeelKylo

7y

This nigga a fool

https://twitter.com/vincestaples/status/1187816682242236417?s=21

Orbi

7y

Damn so for vocals to sound better it would have to be re recorded??

Grok Touched Me

7y

what was different about the forum version

cerroverb

7y

· edited

This is for the folks still stanning in the good year of our lord 2019. First off, let’s be clear. Kanye West isn’t a legitimate musician, fine artist, or fashion designer, obviously. He can’t play any instruments and he reportedly has little to no knowledge of music theory. That’s obvious enough and unarguable. It’s not necessarily essential to be or have any of these things to make good music, but I digress. Is Kanye really responsible for what actually makes his music good, though? Even on College Dropout there are legions of writing and production credits listed. Rhymefest supposedly wrote the vast majority of Jesus Walks, Kanye openly admitted Pardison Fontaine wrote almost all of Violent Crimes, literally his most personal song to date, apart from two lines. Mike Dean is pictured assisting Kanye as early as the CD sessions, and he’s often credited as a writer and producer even on tracks where Kanye supposedly produced and wrote the track himself. And that’s not even considering potential ghostwriting/producing. You’ve heard the rumors and conjecture on this site and abroad, 808’s being primarily the brainchild of Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson, Rhymefest writing the best Ye verse on MBDTF (Gorgeous), Travis Scott supposedly ghostwriting most of Yeezus, etc etc etc. A lot of this rumor, some of it is factual and clearly credited, and some of it is even admitted and supported by the players involved.
So the question is, how do you really consider Kanye? Me? I think he’s a great curator with great taste. Not just an “ideas guy” a la Steve Jobs, but like a literal art curator. But nothing more than this, really. The greatest moments on his records can almost never be claimed by him or him alone; DIAND beat (S1) or Mike Dean’s two guitar solos on Fantasy and Yeezus for example, and many of them are just samples, so were never his or any of his team’s victories to begin with. The reality of the situation is that this dude is a popstar. A charismatic, manic depressive narcissist that screamed at the sky that he was the best, and the r*****ed public at large believed him. I get it though, you might of the mindset that it’s the collaboration and the music that ensues that matters most, yeah, yeah I get it. Same tired arguments. No problem with that. But the guy’s no genius. Try Stevie or Prince or so many others sung and unsung if you want to hear true black excellence in music.
I’ll be back to edit this, but these are just raw thoughts after hearing the album. Peace to y’all. Find the mogul and spark within yourselves, stop looking to literal hacks pushed by the (((powers that be))) or to live vicariously through another man’s success.

Disclaimer: I like JIK

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7y

Damn he actually made a phenomenal Christian album

the end

7y

probably. s*** gave me the best weekends of my life tbh

HeelKylo

7y

This nigga a fool

https://twitter.com/vincestaples/status/1187816682242236417?s=21

S and PT are trash

7y

i missed it too actually 😅

deauxpasse

7y

"this sound is new and not something to be expected of ye. Those who hate religious-focused music won’t be a fan, those with the expectations of drum-ridden bangers like old ye won’t be a fan, and those expecting deep lyrical content definitely won’t be a fan."

he had jesus walks on his debut, this is definitely not new for him nor on his standard.

Sad Daffy

7y

Album is mediocre. Definitely his worst album. Mixing is terrible, Water is his worst song ever. Give us the original Yandhi. Smh. Really disappointed.

Hopefully Kanye sees some of this backlash and gets his s*** together.

Sad Daffy

7y

Album is mediocre. Definitely his worst album. Mixing is terrible, Water is his worst song ever. Give us the original Yandhi. Smh. Really disappointed.

Hopefully Kanye sees some of this backlash and gets his s*** together.

cerroverb

7y

This is for the folks still stanning in the good year of our lord 2019. First off, let’s be clear. Kanye West isn’t a legitimate musician, fine artist, or fashion designer, obviously. He can’t play any instruments and he reportedly has little to no knowledge of music theory. That’s obvious enough and unarguable. It’s not necessarily essential to be or have any of these things to make good music, but I digress. Is Kanye really responsible for what actually makes his music good, though? Even on College Dropout there are legions of writing and production credits listed. Rhymefest supposedly wrote the vast majority of Jesus Walks, Kanye openly admitted Pardison Fontaine wrote almost all of Violent Crimes, literally his most personal song to date, apart from two lines. Mike Dean is pictured assisting Kanye as early as the CD sessions, and he’s often credited as a writer and producer even on tracks where Kanye supposedly produced and wrote the track himself. And that’s not even considering potential ghostwriting/producing. You’ve heard the rumors and conjecture on this site and abroad, 808’s being primarily the brainchild of Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson, Rhymefest writing the best Ye verse on MBDTF (Gorgeous), Travis Scott supposedly ghostwriting most of Yeezus, etc etc etc. A lot of this rumor, some of it is factual and clearly credited, and some of it is even admitted and supported by the players involved.
So the question is, how do you really consider Kanye? Me? I think he’s a great curator with great taste. Not just an “ideas guy” a la Steve Jobs, but like a literal art curator. But nothing more than this, really. The greatest moments on his records can almost never be claimed by him or him alone; DIAND beat (S1) or Mike Dean’s two guitar solos on Fantasy and Yeezus for example, and many of them are just samples, so were never his or any of his team’s victories to begin with. The reality of the situation is that this dude is a popstar. A charismatic, manic depressive narcissist that screamed at the sky that he was the best, and the r*****ed public at large believed him. I get it though, you might of the mindset that it’s the collaboration and the music that ensues that matters most, yeah, yeah I get it. Same tired arguments. No problem with that. But the guy’s no genius. Try Stevie or Prince or so many others sung and unsung if you want to hear true black excellence in music.
I’ll be back to edit this, but these are just raw thoughts after hearing the album. Peace to y’all. Find the mogul and spark within yourselves, stop looking to literal hacks pushed by the (((powers that be))) or to live vicariously through another man’s success.

Disclaimer: I like JIK

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7y

Damn he actually made a phenomenal Christian album

simulation001

7y

what did it say?