I don't see you requiring people who don't like it to use the damn Socratic method to explain their stance....it's just a clear one-sided bias bro that's all lol

He probably never liked this song enough, otherwise it would've already been on TLOP.

this ain’t even that bad

I couldn't understand why people f***ed with s*** like Feedback or Freestyle 4 at first either

but instead of trying to make them mold their opinion into a way I can accept, I just took what I could and tried to see that perspective! 50/50!

Lol I get that

But it’s not Socratic method

No one has told me why they like it

At all
They just got mad at me for asking when they were the ones who replied to my post in the first place

The most I got was “it’s a fun song”

Which one of y’all made this beat?

But if he liked it or it made him happy who the f*** cares man.

Is an artist’s goal to make something that appeases fans or to express whatever the F*** they wanna express ??

why is it not being a fun song unacceptable to you? I Love It is a better constructed sound to some, but many people literally liked that bc it was funny. It was enjoying to listen to

why is that not an okay reason to listen to music? Joji made an entire career in his past life off making funny ass music lol. there's a lane for that

He can release what he wants man
Obviously I don’t control that
But I don’t understand why you’re surprised that me as a fan of an artist who’s renowned for masterpieces and incredibly labored over albums is upset that he’s now releasing music like this
Sure he’s expressing himself but it doesn’t mean it’s not incredibly disappointing to me

Because even just saying it’s funny and enjoyable to listen to is massively more valid than “fun song”

I’m not asking for a lot I just want to actually understand where the people who like it are coming from

As in
Is it that you genuinely think it’s a great song? Or is it that you enjoy it for the fact that it’s kind of a moment and novelty that he’s running as a candidate?

I feel like we’re misunderstanding intention I am genuinely wanting to understand the perspective of people who enjoy this
It just feels like none of those people can explain their enjoyment at all

Wake up mr west, it’s not great

lotta selfish mfs in this thread

I mean off rip, trying to get them to bring outside factors like his presidency or whatever is you projecting reasons for why this could work. basically, all you've done to this point is project the possibilities you've schemed for why this can be digestible. and since no one here has met your possibilities, you've dismissed it

"fun song" is perfectly okay. Drunk and Hot Girls was a fun song. Freestyle 4 was a fun song. Any song that's only a fun song can be explained by just being fun. the s*** you're doing is taking away the subjectivity of art

This song really makes me want to go back and listen and watch s*** from old Kanye eras. It's tough watching my favorite artist's talent legitimately crumble. And I'm not just talking about this song, even Wash in the Blood was so empty of a song

Jesus Is King Out Now
Wash Us In The Blood Out Now

Imo WUITB lost it's character when they changed the drums from the demo

But I’m positive that releasing this gave him as much or maybe even more fulfillment than those classics, so he’s been consistent since day 1 so what could possibly be disappointing other than you feel he’s not catering to you or really anyone else.

You say that like anyone’s met any reasoning

I have no metric for what constitutes proper reasoning as long as it’s genuine and understandable

Saying it’s a “fun song” is a cop out if you can’t elaborate on that

Drunk and Hot Girls was a fun song cause it had a great forward thinking beat and funny ass lyrics that fit well
Freestyle 4 was a fun song because again the lyrics were funny, it had a really solid beat and a great feature

Art isn’t entirely subjective otherwise there would be 0 point in discussing it

Song’s ass.

nah nah nah this ain't it!

if this mf released any of the songs off yandhi officially people would be saying "kanye is back" but instead he just worried about trolling drake and appeasing the gen-z with his "art"