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  • Apr 6
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    shaleirose

    That's the thing about mental illness though: it has the ability to distort what you consider to be the truth

    This all sounds like absolvement of the very real consequences of his actions.

    If he is an adult that should be considered as an individual with agency, then we should not sympathize with him and should allow him to feel the full consequence of his decisions

    If he is a mentally ill person who has had the truth of the matter distorted from him, then he should not have unfettered access to billions of dollars and a global stage for the next time he decides that he should be the worlds next Hitler.

  • Apr 6

    Harley Pasternak said ye physically attacked him in the gym or was aggressive. Then forcibly 5150d him . A man who said he would and him back to zombie land and never see his kids again isn’t a reliable narrator to me . That physical trainer being connected to many celebrities who he called a handler increased paranoia

  • Apr 6
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    Also let's not forget Kanye also empowered Zionist n even Israel by going so overboard with his Jewish hate and Nazi promoting that he directly fed the narrative of Zionist's "everyone is out to get them" decree giving credence to their lie and propaganda on a national stage that is now used a major example

    That type of haphazard lashing out literally only negative outcomes, he empowered both straight up Nazis and straight up Zionist, one in a direct way and the other indirectly (on top of how he disregarded Palestine/

    Just like how Israel uses and co-opts any general negativity towards potentials Jews all around the world to center it on themselves and an attack on themselves to empower their narrative and propaganda in politics and the social discourse to justify their horrific genocide, like the idiots that basically think all Jews = Zionist, they are actually falling right for Israel own pushed propaganda 💀

  • Apr 6
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    He told them explicitly that they can yell nigga at him and his colleagues.

    Thats coon behavior.

  • Apr 6
    Water Giver

    Also let's not forget Kanye also empowered Zionist n even Israel by going so overboard with his Jewish hate and Nazi promoting that he directly fed the narrative of Zionist's "everyone is out to get them" decree giving credence to their lie and propaganda on a national stage that is now used a major example

    That type of haphazard lashing out literally only negative outcomes, he empowered both straight up Nazis and straight up Zionist, one in a direct way and the other indirectly (on top of how he disregarded Palestine/

    Just like how Israel uses and co-opts any general negativity towards potentials Jews all around the world to center it on themselves and an attack on themselves to empower their narrative and propaganda in politics and the social discourse to justify their horrific genocide, like the idiots that basically think all Jews = Zionist, they are actually falling right for Israel own pushed propaganda 💀

    Brother they’ve called anyone who called or Israel even with good reason antisemitic since as far back as words I never said

  • backJT

    He told them explicitly that they can yell nigga at him and his colleagues.

    Thats coon behavior.

    sorry i deleted my original post because i felt i wasn't adding anything.

    i don't know man, i feel like there are many far more egregious examples in rap music.

    is it worth throwing him away over this controversial detail?

  • Apr 6
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    eye contact

    This all sounds like absolvement of the very real consequences of his actions.

    If he is an adult that should be considered as an individual with agency, then we should not sympathize with him and should allow him to feel the full consequence of his decisions

    If he is a mentally ill person who has had the truth of the matter distorted from him, then he should not have unfettered access to billions of dollars and a global stage for the next time he decides that he should be the worlds next Hitler.

    Orrrr, we can acknowledge that the actions he did were wrong while still understanding that the guy has severely untreated mental health issues that were a major contributing factor to many of the decisions he's made over the past decade

  • Rockstard

    Slurs are okay as long as you agree with the context?

    Depends sometimes. If someone forced you at gunpoint to say it, then it gets stripped of its context right

  • Apr 6
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    backJT

    I have watched the video before and MY point which is separate from Lupe, is that Kanye invited White people to say Nigga.

    Idc about that other s*** like that bc it was an off handed comment.

    Kanye told white people to call him a nigga for a night and thats wrong.

    Well if you watched the video says it’s kind of semantics if it’s wrong or not because THEY DO IT EITHER WAY

    He says there are people in Black Lives Matter shirts who are white supremacist . Signing a long to a song isn’t Lupe’s biggest issue even if yes it enables them to say it for a night

  • Apr 6
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    HaroldsChicken

    Well if you watched the video says it’s kind of semantics if it’s wrong or not because THEY DO IT EITHER WAY

    He says there are people in Black Lives Matter shirts who are white supremacist . Signing a long to a song isn’t Lupe’s biggest issue even if yes it enables them to say it for a night

    "He says there are people in Black Lives Matter shirts who are white supremacist"

    They're called democrats

  • Apr 6
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    shaleirose

    Orrrr, we can acknowledge that the actions he did were wrong while still understanding that the guy has severely untreated mental health issues that were a major contributing factor to many of the decisions he's made over the past decade

    So you’re fine with nothing fundamentally changing at all

  • Apr 6
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    MANNEQUIN

    "He says there are people in Black Lives Matter shirts who are white supremacist"

    They're called democrats

    Part of what he was getting at but brother can’t be bothered to watch a 7 minute video

  • Apr 6
    eye contact

    So you’re fine with nothing fundamentally changing at all

    Define changing ?

  • Apr 6
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    I asked about a path of action and bro said “actually I’m just gonna acknowledge and accept”

  • Apr 6
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    eye contact

    So you’re fine with nothing fundamentally changing at all

    No, what should change should be Ye's approach to treating and dealing with his illness. I don't think he should be banished from society for 15 years until Twitter decides it's been long enough since his last episode

  • Apr 6
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    eye contact

    I asked about a path of action and bro said “actually I’m just gonna acknowledge and accept”

    why are you acting like a parole officer? no crime was commited

  • Apr 6
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    MANNEQUIN

    he surrounds himself with nazis because his collaborators kept getting poached by white-owned companies

    it's because Virgil was made the creative director of LV instead of Ye. He's not going to let it happen again, so he's only working with people who are already beyond uncancellable

    There are many potential collaborators that aren't Nazis bro lol - and I don't care how black balled you are, that doesn't give you an excuse to start working with Nazis and then falling down deep you start thinking you are one and start drooling their literal propaganda to the masses and trying to onboard others into it, and there are many people not literal Nazis that would still have worked with him - especially before he went so-so overboard one to two years ago like how Ty$ was with him until the literal Nazi chain n HH popped out etc.

    And I'm not talking about fashion (besides the Swatsika shirt merch), I was talking about his Cuck and earlier Bully sessions, and also his wannabe political campaigns creating that thankfully didn't get off the ground, that's where like Nick and Milo etc. initially came in, while he was also funding their endeavors, and employing them into his own day to day

    He was way whacked out his head the last few months before he thankfully stopped and started healing (which I'm happy did and is happening, but I'm also not gonna pretend the f***ed up s*** he did that has real world consequence n effect didn't happen or is "okay")

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    Usually, people who are actual staunch Nazis, anti-semites, anti-black, etc. don’t suddenly do a complete 180 when given medication to treat mental illness.

    Kanye went on medication and stopped all the bullshit. it makes me much more inclined to believe that all the crazy s*** he said was literally because he was manic, as opposed to meticulously planned.

  • Apr 6
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    shaleirose

    No, what should change should be Ye's approach to treating and dealing with his illness. I don't think he should be banished from society for 15 years until Twitter decides it's been long enough since his last episode

    The man will not change this has been clear for 20 years lol someone else needs to intervene

  • Apr 6
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    MANNEQUIN

    why are you acting like a parole officer? no crime was commited

    I think Nazi apologists should be shot

  • Apr 6
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    eye contact

    I think Nazi apologists should be shot

    Sounds hateful to me.

  • Apr 6
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    shaleirose

    No, what should change should be Ye's approach to treating and dealing with his illness. I don't think he should be banished from society for 15 years until Twitter decides it's been long enough since his last episode

    They want him to do a bunch of public tasks. Apology and focusing on his mental health so this behavior doesn’t happen again is enough for me.

  • Apr 6
    MANNEQUIN

    Sounds hateful to me.

    That’s right

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