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  • necromancer

    if we’re really bringing back the posthumous 2pac albums now it’s really the y2k era

    1998-2003 was goat

  • Jan 25

    that's fun
    a pac and Cardi collab actually makes sense

  • Kendrick better have a verse on this

  • Ezio 🎰
    Jan 25
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    Will be terrible because overproduced

    Like MJ posthumous producers will use it as a platform to showcase their ability and versatility rather than craft something simpler even if it’s the best fit for the song

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    Ezio

    Will be terrible because overproduced

    Like MJ posthumous producers will use it as a platform to showcase their ability and versatility rather than craft something simpler even if it’s the best fit for the song

    At the very least I hope they pull an Xscape and give us OG versions for deluxe bonus tracks

  • Jan 25
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    necromancer

    if we’re really bringing back the posthumous 2pac albums now it’s really the y2k era

    The posthumous pac albums are actually underrated. They’re mostly really good products and take me back to the cd era. Besides the Eminem one they were good

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    2words

    The posthumous pac albums are actually underrated. They’re mostly really good products and take me back to the cd era. Besides the Eminem one they were good

    R U Still Down and Still I Rise are dope for sure, Until the End of Time ans Better Dayz have some misses but I still think they were wortwhile additions to the catalogue.

    The less said about Loyal to the Game and Pac's Life though, the better.

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    Bad Finger Boogie

    At the very least I hope they pull an Xscape and give us OG versions for deluxe bonus tracks

    Really Pac estate should do an “original masters” series and re release all of the stuff that was used for the posthumous albums but with the original production. Would give them a whole new run of material out of the same stuff. I think the market for things like that has increased with the vinyl boom and that s*** would sell.

    And all they need to do is just have someone organize the tapes and then have a couple engineers prepare them, could have a big series of releases without a ton of work or paying new producers or features

    They shouldn’t be doing features or AI, im interested to see how they try and do this because it’s a turning point for the industry. But Afeni not being here makes me feel like it’s just going to be full on exploitive. People hate on the old posthumous albums but Afeni actually did a great job and her only mistake was trusting Eminem with one

  • Bad Finger Boogie

    R U Still Down and Still I Rise are dope for sure, Until the End of Time ans Better Dayz have some misses but I still think they were wortwhile additions to the catalogue.

    The less said about Loyal to the Game and Pac's Life though, the better.

    I actually don’t mind Pacs Life that much tbh

    I get why those last two gave those projects a bad reputation though. I believe Jimmy Iovine and Eminem did the loyal to the game album together as some kind of plot to get more control/money off pacs music tbh. Like that few year period where em was a “2pac super fan” just so he could do this, when really after that he doesn’t mention pac as a big influence much. All the other ones were released on Amaru/interscope but the loyal to the game one is just interscope from what I can tell. I think Jimmy put Em up to it and had him write to Afeni and beg to be the producer, and then once he was involved and in the door they used it to give Interscope more leverage and control

    There’s also this weird thing where Em censored pac lyrics that said something about Jewish people but on the same album, the remix by another producer as a bonus doesn’t censor it. It suggests jimmy was hands on in Em’s production and told him to cut that s***. And it wasn’t even in an offensive context

    Regardless it’s shameful what Eminem did, whether we look at it as a producer or as a human

  • Jan 25
    Unforgivable

    Idk what record labels pimped out more deceased rappers than 2Pac & JUICE WRLD

    X tbh

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    2words

    Really Pac estate should do an “original masters” series and re release all of the stuff that was used for the posthumous albums but with the original production. Would give them a whole new run of material out of the same stuff. I think the market for things like that has increased with the vinyl boom and that s*** would sell.

    And all they need to do is just have someone organize the tapes and then have a couple engineers prepare them, could have a big series of releases without a ton of work or paying new producers or features

    They shouldn’t be doing features or AI, im interested to see how they try and do this because it’s a turning point for the industry. But Afeni not being here makes me feel like it’s just going to be full on exploitive. People hate on the old posthumous albums but Afeni actually did a great job and her only mistake was trusting Eminem with one

    Yeah, I've felt for some time now that there's big money to be had in doing releases along the lines - see how popular those "Super Deluxe" editions seem to have become now with legacy acts opening the vaults and selling crazy-expensive multi-disc/vinyl sets of all their old vault material.

    If anyone in the rap space has a vault worth opening in that fashion, I'd say it's Pac. A lot of that stuff has leaked over the years, often in sub-par quality from DAT tape rips and so on, so this would be a great opportunity for the fans to get that in their optimal form, and for the rights owners to make pretty easy money off it.

  • Bad Finger Boogie

    Yeah, I've felt for some time now that there's big money to be had in doing releases along the lines - see how popular those "Super Deluxe" editions seem to have become now with legacy acts opening the vaults and selling crazy-expensive multi-disc/vinyl sets of all their old vault material.

    If anyone in the rap space has a vault worth opening in that fashion, I'd say it's Pac. A lot of that stuff has leaked over the years, often in sub-par quality from DAT tape rips and so on, so this would be a great opportunity for the fans to get that in their optimal form, and for the rights owners to make pretty easy money off it.

    Pac’s catalog also deserves it because it would really show how much work he did while he was alive. I think the fact that all that material existed gets overshadowed by the production on the releases. I was listening to Loyal to the Game and as lacking as the execution was, I still felt like it’s crazy that it could even exist. He had so many verses and songs that he was able to do a whole shady aftermath free agency signing era years after his death as people like jay and Nas are starting to decline. Like the fact pac could go album for album with jay and Nas until like 2008-10 when they finally pass him is nuts