OPDec 25, 2021
throwawayokayso he wasn’t shot in the neck and back then or ?
no idea that article can't be trusted at this point if they got things wrong from the start.
Dec 25, 2021
Daveacee9He’ll just get a gun charge and on top of that they never found a gun
Interesting
Let's see how this plays out
- OPDec 25, 2021·edited·1 replySHAQUILLE
So now we’re getting into eugenics territory with the whole poor people shouldn’t have children
Fam no its not.
What he's saying is facts - remove the emotion out of it.
If you are struggling to provide for yourself, should you have kids when you cannot provide a good life and the attention they need to be properly nurtured?
Thats just common sense. Obviously things happen and if you have a child a person will do their best and try to figure it out, but the reality is if you are not properly prepared the child will suffer in some capacity.
Poverty does not equal bad parenting and thats not what he's saying. He's saying one should set their children up for success to the best of their abilities and if you have a child you should teach them right and wrong and nurture them. If you see your child going down a bad path bring them back in and have the difficult conversations with them.
In the case of Kay Flock - his parents should have set him straight after he received a gun charge earlier in the year and tell him this is his one chance to change the lives for himself, the family and his friends. Move differently and stop gang banging.
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyBandito
Fam no its not.
What he's saying is facts - remove the emotion out of it.
If you are struggling to provide for yourself, should you have kids when you cannot provide a good life and the attention they need to be properly nurtured?
Thats just common sense. Obviously things happen and if you have a child a person will do their best and try to figure it out, but the reality is if you are not properly prepared the child will suffer in some capacity.
Poverty does not equal bad parenting and thats not what he's saying. He's saying one should set their children up for success to the best of their abilities and if you have a child you should teach them right and wrong and nurture them. If you see your child going down a bad path bring them back in and have the difficult conversations with them.
In the case of Kay Flock - his parents should have set him straight after he received a gun charge earlier in the year and tell him this is his one chance to change the lives for himself, the family and his friends. Move differently and stop gang banging.
If that’s what @VeggiePablo meant then I agree with him. I took it as him saying what you said in the first sentence of your last paragraph
- OPDec 25, 2021SHAQUILLE
If that’s what @VeggiePablo meant then I agree with him. I took it as him saying what you said in the first sentence of your last paragraph
On a separate note eugenics is fascinating.
There are benefits - however, humans will f*** it up by their racial basis and beliefs.
Gene editing is more of the right direction. However, it needs to be heavily regulated so we are only editing out deadly diseases versus creating designer babies.
any how Merry Christmas.
Dec 25, 2021·1 replyBanditoWhile this is true, regardless of generational trauma everyone knows right from wrong. Parents need to accountability for the bad their children do.
People forget that the majority of people who live in impoverished neighbourhoods are not criminals and murders so it is possible to raise your kids in those environments and have them turn out to be normal hardworking civilians.
Let's use FBG Duck's mom as an example as most people here know her story. She's lost multiple children due to gang violence. While circumstance for her to move her entire family out of the hood were probably unrealistic there is a way to remain in the hood and have your children be contributing members to society.
The moment one child is killed her entire parenting and mentorship style should have changed. Granted she also raised young men who will ultimately do what they want, but it's clear as day that she also perpetuated the lifestyle which did not give her boys a fighting chance.
Not all people do know right from wrong, especially in the context of growing up where you have to figure out how to survive. By any means necessary.
We gotta stop downplaying trauma's lasting effects on people's brains and especially how damaging it is during the early years of development. It changes how your brain develops and causes health issues throughout life.
Growing up in extreme poverty is trauma. Having to "become a man/woman" when you are still kid is trauma. This goes into the adultification of Black and Brown kids, which plays a huge role in all this.
This is me speaking as an observer and someone who likes to think about stuff from all perspectives. I don't believe in bad people. I believe people make really harmful decisions and I can't excuse those things, but it came from somewhere. There are so many people who are completely broken mentally because of what they have been through and not having unconditional love around them.
Dec 25, 2021·1 replyVeggieKubernetesYou’re literally a pathetic parent If you let your kid end up like this.
Yeah its not nice to say but it’s an embarrassment if you let your spawn end up slumped on the side of the road after a life of throwing up gang signs
Also I don’t think you’re using that word correctly. I’m very much not projecting by virtue of having parents who didn’t raise me to end up in federal court lol
There are people who have great parents that still end up in the streets and vice versa. It's literally not always that simple.
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyPrbz
There are people who have great parents that still end up in the streets and vice versa. It's literally not always that simple.
I mean yeah there are edge cases if the person has legit mental issues
- OPDec 25, 2021·1 replyGLITZZZ
Not all people do know right from wrong, especially in the context of growing up where you have to figure out how to survive. By any means necessary.
We gotta stop downplaying trauma's lasting effects on people's brains and especially how damaging it is during the early years of development. It changes how your brain develops and causes health issues throughout life.
Growing up in extreme poverty is trauma. Having to "become a man/woman" when you are still kid is trauma. This goes into the adultification of Black and Brown kids, which plays a huge role in all this.
This is me speaking as an observer and someone who likes to think about stuff from all perspectives. I don't believe in bad people. I believe people make really harmful decisions and I can't excuse those things, but it came from somewhere. There are so many people who are completely broken mentally because of what they have been through and not having unconditional love around them.
I agree with everything you are saying on generational trauma with the exception of knowing right or wrong. Everyone knows murder is wrong regardless of trauma. Yes, some murder can be justified (self defense, heck even some types of get back can be justified morally). However, society as a whole, no matter your religion, race, social economic status and past trauma can all agree that murder is bad.
Ultimately, this is extremely complex - I just think exclusively chalking something up to trauma removes responsibility from the parties involved and is almost like a justification in certain cases.
For example, let's use child sexual abuse as an example. Research has shown that men who were abused as children have a higher likely hood of committing sexual abuse (KTT users don't take this out of context - this does not mean that all men who are sexually abused are rapist). Their past trauma does not excuse them from their crimes however, it is a contributing factor.
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyVeggieKubernetes
I mean yeah there are edge cases if the person has legit mental issues
Not even that, but that is a major contributing factor the because a lot if these niggas do have mental issues. Just when kids latch on to bad influences they are around rather than parents guidance for one reason or another. Sometimes you can do your best and everything you can as a parent and your kid still goes on the wrong path for no fault of your own.
- OPDec 25, 2021Prbz
Not even that, but that is a major contributing factor the because a lot if these niggas do have mental issues. Just when kids latch on to bad influences they are around rather than parents guidance for one reason or another. Sometimes you can do your best and everything you can as a parent and your kid still goes on the wrong path for no fault of your own.
For sure - d*** abuse is an easy example.
My BFF brother is heavy into d**** and he comes from a very wealthy family and has every available opportunity provided to him - they constantly drop 20-50k on rehab for him.
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyBandito
I agree with everything you are saying on generational trauma with the exception of knowing right or wrong. Everyone knows murder is wrong regardless of trauma. Yes, some murder can be justified (self defense, heck even some types of get back can be justified morally). However, society as a whole, no matter your religion, race, social economic status and past trauma can all agree that murder is bad.
Ultimately, this is extremely complex - I just think exclusively chalking something up to trauma removes responsibility from the parties involved and is almost like a justification in certain cases.
For example, let's use child sexual abuse as an example. Research has shown that men who were abused as children have a higher likely hood of committing sexual abuse (KTT users don't take this out of context - this does not mean that all men who are sexually abused are rapist). Their past trauma does not excuse them from their crimes however, it is a contributing factor.
I agree.
Fight, Flight, Freeze, Faint are all huge factors in committing a violent act. Its shown that some people are always in a constant state of these areas, so the morality of an act isn't even thought of, cause aren't really thinking at all.
this topic is super important to me.
- OPDec 25, 2021GLITZZZ
I agree.
Fight, Flight, Freeze, Faint are all huge factors in committing a violent act. Its shown that some people are always in a constant state of these areas, so the morality of an act isn't even thought of, cause aren't really thinking at all.
this topic is super important to me.
For sure - living in that constant state must be traumatic on its own. This probably leads to self medication, depression and suicide in many cases. That's why mental health services is crucial and should be a a universal right. It may save someones life.
- Dec 25, 2021·edited
I thought this might be like Rondo#9 or C murder situation but that new footage says different
He got some kinda chance to beat his case
soccerfanj ⚽Dec 25, 2021SHAQUILLESo now we’re getting into eugenics territory with the whole poor people shouldn’t have children
honestly its disrespectful to set your kids up to fail. Child birth should be planned
- Dec 25, 2021
F*** eugenics…a lot of the issues plaguing the black community can be resolved by dismantling the racial wealth gap in the form of reparations.
Dec 25, 2021·1 replyGhostDeini718I can’t imagine working in nyc high school
I mean there are probably decent ones with good mannered kids but most HS are chaos filled with hormone raging teenagers
When I went to HS here, that s*** was crazy lol don’t think it got any better
yea i mean i teach at a district high school in the BX so the old white people will tell u its dangerous, whatever but literally 99% of my kids are respectful and great
tbh at the high school level when kids get caught up in the streets a lot of them just stop coming. or go to transfer schools, d75 schools whatever so ive never felt unsafe. its usual high school BS most of the time which is fine haha
they also prob are nicer to me because im in my 20s, am from nyc, have dyed hair, wear nike SBs to work and am up to date on the music they like haha
Dec 25, 2021·3 replieshadjiyea i mean i teach at a district high school in the BX so the old white people will tell u its dangerous, whatever but literally 99% of my kids are respectful and great
tbh at the high school level when kids get caught up in the streets a lot of them just stop coming. or go to transfer schools, d75 schools whatever so ive never felt unsafe. its usual high school BS most of the time which is fine haha
they also prob are nicer to me because im in my 20s, am from nyc, have dyed hair, wear nike SBs to work and am up to date on the music they like haha
Facts most of these kids on the drill s*** just stop showing up all together
Crazy how young some of these kids are though, you can see flock in this video after one of his friends got killed he was only 14, kid was also cool with and went to school with my friends nephew. A 16 year old was killed the same day as retaliation, it’s just sad.
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyMr Sting
Facts most of these kids on the drill s*** just stop showing up all together
Crazy how young some of these kids are though, you can see flock in this video after one of his friends got killed he was only 14, kid was also cool with and went to school with my friends nephew. A 16 year old was killed the same day as retaliation, it’s just sad.
https://youtube.com/shorts/w6lqTuEe1zk?feature=share
sad as hell man. my first year teaching was when the Junior thing happened, s*** was sad as hell and I was hoping that would be a turnaround moment but clearly we got work to do
a kid tried to bring a gun to my campus in october, it got stopped at the metal detector but it seemed more like he had it for protection than for anything active. it sucks kids feel like they need one
Dec 25, 2021he’ll be aight
- OPDec 25, 2021Mr Sting
Facts most of these kids on the drill s*** just stop showing up all together
Crazy how young some of these kids are though, you can see flock in this video after one of his friends got killed he was only 14, kid was also cool with and went to school with my friends nephew. A 16 year old was killed the same day as retaliation, it’s just sad.
https://youtube.com/shorts/w6lqTuEe1zk?feature=share
What’s the story behind this shoot? Never heard about it.
Dec 25, 2021Mr StingFacts most of these kids on the drill s*** just stop showing up all together
Crazy how young some of these kids are though, you can see flock in this video after one of his friends got killed he was only 14, kid was also cool with and went to school with my friends nephew. A 16 year old was killed the same day as retaliation, it’s just sad.
https://youtube.com/shorts/w6lqTuEe1zk?feature=share
The way they killed that kid Rah Rah after this was crazy. Like some mafia hit s***
- Dec 25, 2021·1 replyhadji
sad as hell man. my first year teaching was when the Junior thing happened, s*** was sad as hell and I was hoping that would be a turnaround moment but clearly we got work to do
a kid tried to bring a gun to my campus in october, it got stopped at the metal detector but it seemed more like he had it for protection than for anything active. it sucks kids feel like they need one
Oh yeah the Junior situation was wild for the Bronx, super sad all around
Crazy enough I was told the dude they saying Flock killed was 3ni which is the gang that killed Junior smh
- Dec 26, 2021Mr Sting
Oh yeah the Junior situation was wild for the Bronx, super sad all around
Crazy enough I was told the dude they saying Flock killed was 3ni which is the gang that killed Junior smh
goddamn man i wish there was a community figure with enough pull who was interested in peace, maybe there is i just wouldnt know who
Dec 27, 2021Daveacee9I don’t think he was making bread like that tho because in his IG story, son was asking who got citi bank and chase and wanna make 100k not too long ago lmaoo
