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  • Jan 28
    Palestinian Oozi

    I feel Cole is a great technical rapper but the two things that I think separate him from Kendrick and Drake…Drake in his prime has an iconic cult of personality that makes him a giant and a knew how to communicate this in different ways. Kendrick has better thought out themes and narrative styles to me that make an album work better.

    So I’ve never found Cole as interesting as the other two. But I won’t deny that he can bar out at higher levels but not necessarily all the time.

    Fair and I agree wit this

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 28
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    notbrock

    The thing is Kendrick doesn’t do a lot of bar heavy raps but when he does it hits as we saw with the beef. Cole attempts more bar heavy songs way more than Kendrick but ends up missing a lot

    NLU obviously isn't some masterclass in lyricism but the energy and flows are great. It also has more quotable lines than every song Coles done in the last 5 years combined, Objectively

    I’m not saying Coles a bad rapper by any means, I’m not even saying Kendrick’s better. I just think it’s a little ridiculous the way y’all act like Cole is the greatest to ever touch a pen

    With all dat being said why yall act like drake ain’t like dat 2

  • Jan 28
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    Valentine

    I mean all the legendary hoopers agree that 30 years of All Star game 4th quarter seriousness was taken away when Bron passed the ball being guarded by Kobe

    Cole choked, it was WIDELY noticed and noted. denying that is just gaslighting and conflating s*** that ain’t what happened in the moment lol

    Lmao and those same legendary hoopers know Bron surpassed them all in every single conversation because he's put up quality consistently for decades

    And how are we still pretending this wasn't something between people that hated each other, not some friendly sport...

  • Jan 28
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    goretex

    With all dat being said why yall act like drake ain’t like dat 2

    Ghostwriting s*** forever removed that convo from Drake

  • Gosh 😹
    Jan 28
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    v003

    Ghostwriting s*** forever removed that convo from Drake

    And the fact Drake doesn’t drop full rap projects

    Why would I compare a nigga who raps part time to Cole da Gawd

  • Black Smoke

    Kendrick got more quotables in not like us alone than j Cole’s entire career

    Nigga using hits and he still wrong lmao

  • Jan 28
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    Gosh

    And the fact Drake doesn’t drop full rap projects

    Why would I compare a nigga who raps part time to Cole da Gawd

    Drake also has never written from a perspective other than his own, made a real storytelling song etc

    Like there's real measurable s*** that seperates Drake from most rap convos

  • notbrock

    So quote some of these great Cole bars

    The best bar I’ve heard from him in the last 5 years was the no mc equal line on Johnny Ps caddy

    I also liked that draft king bar on port Antonio but for every good Cole bar there’s like 7 terrible ones

    That’s so vague. Sht can be said about like every rapper

  • Jan 28
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    v003

    Can you answer the question or not

    Damn near the whole thing is a reach

    It’s a very simple bar that you’re adding like 65 different meanings to that don’t even make sense

    1.whip(car) and traffic
    -yes those are 2 words that he says

    2. people rather move d****(traffickin’ pounds) than
    work(whippin’ work)
    -this is just a reach lmao like what, How is this even wordplay?

    3.Traffickin’ pounds(traffic impound) at a traffic stop your car can be impound for d****
    -ridiculous reach

    4. Slave trafficking/slavery (whippin work and tratticking)
    -bro

    5.whippin’ work (whip and work), meaning either whip in to shape/work out or to whip in(get in) some work to lose weight (trafficking pounds)
    Next line
    -Do you think Cole invented the phrase “whippin work” or something? Like dog this is laughable

    I’m not even going into the my jack jumpin part cause it’s even more ridiculous

  • NLU doesn’t even have hard bars that would shake a room of MCs like stop it’s following the drake hit formula which is fine but I’m talking about actual bars

  • Jan 28
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    v003

    Drake also has never written from a perspective other than his own, made a real storytelling song etc

    Like there's real measurable s*** that seperates Drake from most rap convos

    The shoe fits was his attempt at a story telling song but it was just alright. Plus the song was some red pill s*** too.

    I dont think he has it in him to make a For Your Eyez Only or Sing about me type track

  • Jan 28
    Free YoungBoy

    The shoe fits was his attempt at a story telling song but it was just alright. Plus the song was some red pill s*** too.

    I dont think he has it in him to make a For Your Eyez Only or Sing about me type track

    I dont think he could do it either but it's not needed to be a goat or anything but when it comes to penwork how could you not

  • Jan 28
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    Gosh

    And the fact Drake doesn’t drop full rap projects

    Why would I compare a nigga who raps part time to Cole da Gawd

    kendrick doesnt drop "full rap projects" either.

  • Jan 28
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    v003

    Drake also has never written from a perspective other than his own, made a real storytelling song etc

    Like there's real measurable s*** that seperates Drake from most rap convos

    This is Drake’s writing from the POV of Baka Not Nice

  • Jan 28
    Mafia Boss

    kendrick doesnt drop "full rap projects" either.

    Lol

  • Jan 28
    Black Smoke

    This is Drake’s writing from the POV of Baka Not Nice

    !https://youtu.be/4eqSd5VNLhs?si=uAuiiRQ6IhTyOty0

    I meant in a song of his own not writing for s***offenders

  • Palestinian Oozi

    I feel Cole is a great technical rapper but the two things that I think separate him from Kendrick and Drake…Drake in his prime has an iconic cult of personality that makes him a giant and a knew how to communicate this in different ways. Kendrick has better thought out themes and narrative styles to me that make an album work better.

    So I’ve never found Cole as interesting as the other two. But I won’t deny that he can bar out at higher levels but not necessarily all the time.

    These are the most on point reasons for why most people feel the way they do.

    People having different conversations at once.

  • Jan 28
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    notbrock

    Damn near the whole thing is a reach

    It’s a very simple bar that you’re adding like 65 different meanings to that don’t even make sense

    1.whip(car) and traffic
    -yes those are 2 words that he says

    2. people rather move d****(traffickin’ pounds) than
    work(whippin’ work)
    -this is just a reach lmao like what, How is this even wordplay?

    3.Traffickin’ pounds(traffic impound) at a traffic stop your car can be impound for d****
    -ridiculous reach

    4. Slave trafficking/slavery (whippin work and tratticking)
    -bro

    5.whippin’ work (whip and work), meaning either whip in to shape/work out or to whip in(get in) some work to lose weight (trafficking pounds)
    Next line
    -Do you think Cole invented the phrase “whippin work” or something? Like dog this is laughable

    I’m not even going into the my jack jumpin part cause it’s even more ridiculous

    "this is a reach because I say it is"

    Okay

  • Gosh 😹
    Jan 28
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    Mafia Boss

    kendrick doesnt drop "full rap projects" either.

    Every Kendrick album is a rap album

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 28
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    v003

    Ghostwriting s*** forever removed that convo from Drake

    He wrote more music then both them niggas

    Just cause a few of them all time points come from assists don’t mean they don’t count

  • Gosh

    Every Kendrick album is a rap album

    Hes gonna say some s*** like Luther being on GNX means its not full rap

  • Jan 28
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    goretex

    He wrote more music then both them niggas

    Just cause a few of them all time points come from assists don’t mean they don’t count

    I'm not arguing about his ability to write hits or nothing just saying why most ppl don't include him in those convos, same as Kanye

  • Jan 28
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    v003

    "this is a reach because I say it is"

    Okay

    Because it’s absolutely ridiculous

    “Trafficking pounds” has been said in a million songs but when Cole said it he actually meant it to have another meaning because it kinda sounds like “traffic impound”

  • goretex 💁🏽‍♂️
    Jan 28
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    v003

    I'm not arguing about his ability to write hits or nothing just saying why most ppl don't include him in those convos, same as Kanye

    Nah I know I’m just joshing

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