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  • Jun 24, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Dawn FM is a continuation of After Hours. Even the Weeknd said so himself. It's songs off Dawn FM that'd fit perfectly on After Hours. What are you saying?

    Dawn FM was a diversion of formula in the same way Drake’s album was a diversion of formula. Abel albums usually have a handful of sounds for fans to pick and choose from whether they want slow moody r&b, or hip-hop bangers, or big pop hits, similar to how Drake structures his albums. Both Dawn FM and HN were albums that stuck to one sound throughout the album for the sake of creating a cohesive album. Also a sound that a lot of casual fans rejected and either warmed up to it or stayed against it.

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Theory

    Yeah, it was expected to do more before the rollout began and it became clear we were getting a left field album.

    GKMC dropped and did the 242k before Kendrick had fully blown up. All he had in the mainstream at that point was Swimming Pools.

    In the time between GKMC and TPAB, he had Poetic Justice, Maad city, BDKMV, his Control verse, etc etc. He had become a lot more known in the mainstream. Cole had just done 370k with a surprise album a few months prior, Drake did over 500k with a surprise album a month before as well.

    Don’t forget the pop feature run he was on too. The amount of fans he got from that Imagine Dragons song, it brought two different types of fans bases together. Kendrick was gonna do numbers if he didn’t drop TPAB, which I’m glad he did

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Bruh RUTH being an actual hit song and not just on some meme s*** is kind of mind boggling to me

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    Bruh RUTH being an actual hit song and not just on some meme s*** is kind of mind boggling to me

    What’s Ruth

  • SWAN 💜
    Jun 24, 2022
    Peace Kid

    mods need to make a new sales thread in general.

    this thread just turned into someone spending their whole day arguing how drake didnt flop

    mods have made like 5 different sales thread. they cant decide wether they want one or not

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    now we saying passionfruit flopped

    On the charts? Absolutely. Most of its success came after it had left the Hot 100. It kept gaining streams but it wasn't a successful chart hit.

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Drake's last rap album easily outsold Kendrick's last rap album. What's false about that? This isn't a rap album.

    Last month, the “the content of this album wasn’t mainstream” excuse didn’t fly. Not gonna fly now

  • Jun 24, 2022
    TIIMMY BURNER

    I'm saying MMBS being 'left' field didn't seem to add up imo when he's done better with an album that leagues more unexpected and experimental.

    Meanwhile HN is as far off base as Drake has gone. He's usually a consistent artist in the type of music he drops, even if the quality varies from project to project.

    So saying MMBS is as left field for Kendrick as HN is for Drake, or that it's as left field in general imo is not correct. But I see your points in other comments so I will concede MMBS is not the traditional rap album.

    I love the HN but its mostly just singing drake over different beats. Subject matter the same, even the notes he hits are kinda typical for him

    But yeah that departure was still unexpected from him so maybe its a more left field than HN but not like a planet away

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Love Life Utopia

    Don’t forget the pop feature run he was on too. The amount of fans he got from that Imagine Dragons song, it brought two different types of fans bases together. Kendrick was gonna do numbers if he didn’t drop TPAB, which I’m glad he did

    Felt like after that he started trying to pander to a hit more.

  • Jun 24, 2022
    SHAQUILLE

    What’s Ruth

    Running up that hill - Kate bush

  • v12

    you haven’t proved me wrong and at least weeknd/drake albums were cool. that kendrick s*** worst album of the year

    Don’t need too.

    Kendrick will be outselling Drake for the snd straight time in a row.

  • Jun 24, 2022
    Jalen Brunson Fan

    Bruh RUTH being an actual hit song and not just on some meme s*** is kind of mind boggling to me

    Fr I expected it to drop after the first week

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Theory

    Yeah, it was expected to do more before the rollout began and it became clear we were getting a left field album.

    GKMC dropped and did the 242k before Kendrick had fully blown up. All he had in the mainstream at that point was Swimming Pools.

    In the time between GKMC and TPAB, he had Poetic Justice, Maad city, BDKMV, his Control verse, etc etc. He had become a lot more known in the mainstream. Cole had just done 370k with a surprise album a few months prior, Drake did over 500k with a surprise album a month before as well.

    Maybe expectations were high but it was a super left-field album, especially as a second album (third if you count Section.80). It did as well as could be expected imo. Anyone expecting that album to perform the say way a traditional rap album would, was delusional.

  • SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻
    Jun 24, 2022
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    when do we get Friday projections?

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    Dawn FM was a diversion of formula in the same way Drake’s album was a diversion of formula. Abel albums usually have a handful of sounds for fans to pick and choose from whether they want slow moody r&b, or hip-hop bangers, or big pop hits, similar to how Drake structures his albums. Both Dawn FM and HN were albums that stuck to one sound throughout the album for the sake of creating a cohesive album. Also a sound that a lot of casual fans rejected and either warmed up to it or stayed against it.

    So now you're saying Abel was lying when he described his own album?

  • SWAN 💜
    Jun 24, 2022
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    personally i think we do need a sales thread just to keep the stan wars in one place and not let all that toxicity spill over to the rest of the site

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Theory

    Last month, the “the content of this album wasn’t mainstream” excuse didn’t fly. Not gonna fly now

    Most of it wasn't but it had enough songs on there that could have worked on radio, no?

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    On the charts? Absolutely. Most of its success came after it had left the Hot 100. It kept gaining streams but it wasn't a successful chart hit.

    just because it isn't getting payola levrl radio doesn't mean it flopped lmao

  • SWAN 💜
    Jun 24, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    So now you're saying Abel was lying when he described his own album?

    it was a continuation of Dawn ''narratively''

    you know, the whole red suit, blue suit story

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Maybe expectations were high but it was a super left-field album, especially as a second album (third if you count Section.80). It did as well as could be expected imo. Anyone expecting that album to perform the say way a traditional rap album would, was delusional.

    It was more like

    “Kendrick’s next album is gonna be huge”

    heard album

    ”Nevermind”

    Lol the expectation was there based off his popularity, without knowing what he would come out with.

  • Jun 24, 2022
    SABMAN TURNT

    when do we get Friday projections?

    Anywhere from 4PM ET. Usually an hour or two after that, it depends.

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    So now you're saying Abel was lying when he described his own album?

    Not at all wth lmao. This album still is an extension of After Hours but he’s obviously talking about the universe he’s created with After Hours. He’s said Dawn FM is the second installment in a new trilogy.

  • Jun 24, 2022
    SWAN

    personally i think we do need a sales thread just to keep the stan wars in one place and not let all that toxicity spill over to the rest of the site

    agree but let it be run by someone who isn't a batshit crazy stan

  • Jun 24, 2022
    SABMAN TURNT

    when do we get Friday projections?

    saturday

  • Jun 24, 2022
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    Watching a mod fix the stickies in live time was f***ing with my brain

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