Obviously Drake is gonna sell more than a guy who debuted in 2016. I thought it was clear I meant the drops from those years
This is a list of best-selling albums and their respective years of release (best-selling albums by total units are the ones with the yellow highlight and best-selling albums by pure sales are the ones in white).
Nah the Drake stans told me that he makes 20+ track albums to give us fans more music. It's not about the streams.
Reminder that a major studio album by Drake only sold 210k first week
This is a list of best-selling albums and their respective years of release (best-selling albums by total units are the ones with the yellow highlight and best-selling albums by pure sales are the ones in white).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_the_United_States_of_the_Nielsen_SoundScan_era#Best-selling_albums_by_year
These are outdated numbers, Scorpion has sold over 5 million
These are outdated numbers, Scorpion has sold over 5 million
Weren't you the one who said this?
Obviously Drake is gonna sell more than a guy who debuted in 2016. I thought it was clear I meant the drops from those years
These are outdated numbers, Scorpion has sold over 5 million
Also, Scorpion's units pre-release were 1.1M RIAA units (God's Plan/Nice for What/I'm Upset), that's why it was able to be certified Platinum the day the album dropped.
The other 3.9M units it moved in 2018 were from after the album dropped so really, by the end of 2018, it had moved just over 5M RIAA units. In 2019, it moved an additional 1.25M units. In 2020, it moved an additional 825k units and in 2021, it moved an additional 620k units. So far this year, it has moved almost 300k units. That brings its total right now to about 7.98M RIAA units. It'll cross 8M RIAA units in a week or two.
he was definitely bigger than taylor in 2019 idc what these say
wow
circles
sunflower
goodbyes
take what you want
plus the leftover hype from 2018
globally you're definitely right
Men lie, women lie….. numbers don’t. IFPI uses a global combination of album and single sales (not to be a d*** but that’s just way more valid than one man’s opinion)
IFPI use an algorithm which they wont even make public, it heavily favors artists that sell pures like Taylor & BTS. It's s***
Wait you actually unironically believe that Post Malone is the biggest artist in the world?
he was definitely close in 2019
beerbongs & bentleys + Hollywood's Bleeding were both as big as Scorpion & they dropped in back to back years
he has fallen off a lot since but the man has 2 top 5 most streamed albums on Spotify. He's insane
These are outdated numbers, Scorpion has sold over 5 million
You are arguing about numbers with Drake stans. That's like trying to convince KingOfPop that MJ was guilty. You are not winning this, let it go
IFPI use an algorithm which they wont even make public, it heavily favors artists that sell pures like Taylor & BTS. It's s***
Billboard also favors pure sales. Same with RIAA. It's the way the music industry has operated up until about 8 years ago so it's not surprising.
Reminder that a major studio album by Drake only sold 210k first week
When rappers do other genres that happens. Rebirth did 176k
Also, Scorpion's units pre-release were 1.1M RIAA units (God's Plan/Nice for What/I'm Upset), that's why it was able to be certified Platinum the day the album dropped.
https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1012435190440869888https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1014237459092107264https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1015341485728804864The other 3.9M units it moved in 2018 were from after the album dropped so really, by the end of 2018, it had moved just over 5M RIAA units. In 2019, it moved an additional 1.25M units. In 2020, it moved an additional 825k units and in 2021, it moved an additional 620k units. So far this year, it has moved almost 300k units. That brings its total right now to about 7.98M RIAA units. It'll cross 8M RIAA units in a week or two.
that 3.9 includes pre release. It was cert 5x platinum late 2019
that 3.9 includes pre release. It was cert 5x platinum late 2019
https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1461099327367958529It doesn't. chartdata's updates on the units albums have moved is based on Billboard's EAS which only counts the units for albums that charted on the Billboard 200 so that tweet saying Scorpion has now sold over 6.5M total units in the US doesn't include the 1.1M pre-release units. Add that and it brings its total to about 7.6M towards the end of November 2021. From then till now, it's sold almost 400k units. That's in line with my calculations.
These were the top-selling albums of 2018 based on Billboard's EAS (which again, only accounts for sales of albums that chart on the Billboard 200, so if Drake drops an album that moves 5M units in pre-release units, this will only track sales for the album starting from what it does in it's first week charting on the Billboard 200).
Rank - Estimated EAS - TITLE - Artist
01 - 3,905,000 - SCORPION - Drake
02 - 3,251,000 - BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS - Post Malone
03 - 2,499,000 - THE GREATEST SHOWMAN - Soundtrack
04 - 2,055,000 - INVASION OF PRIVACY - Cardi B
05 - 1,985,000 - ASTROWORLD - Travis Scott
06 - 1,637,000 - ? - XXXTentacion
07 - 1,599,000 - CULTURE II - Migos
08 - 1,481,000 - ÷ - Ed Sheeran
09 - 1,459,000 - BLACK PANTHER: THE ALBUM - Soundtrack
10 - 1,388,000 - STONEY - Post Malone
11 - 1,168,000 - GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE - Juice WRLD
12 - 1,153,000 - KOD - J Cole
13 - 1,113,000 - KAMIKAZE - Eminem
14 - 1,110,000 - A STAR IS BORN (OST) - Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper
15 - 1,107,000 - EVOLVE - Imagine Dragons
16 - 1,083,000 - THA CARTER V - Lil Wayne
17 - 1,075,000 - THIS ONE'S FOR YOU - Luke Combs
18 - 1,072,000 - SWEETENER - Ariana Grande
19 - 1,032,000 - DAMN. - Kendrick Lamar
20 - 995,000 - CAMILA - Camila Cabello
21 - 988,000 - REPUTATION - Taylor Swift
22 - 955,000 - AMERICAN TEEN - Khalid
23 - 942,000 - 17 - XXXTentacion
24 - 935,000 - HAMILTON: AN AMERICAN MUSICAL - Original Cast
25 - 928,000 - QUEEN - Nicki Minaj
26 - 915,000 - REARVIEW TOWN - Jason Aldean
27 - 849,000 - LUV IS RAGE 2 - Lil Uzi Vert
28 - 824,000 - 24K MAGIC - Bruno Mars
29 - 820,000 - KANE BROWN - Kane Brown
30 - 808,000 - RED PILL BLUES - Maroon 5
31 - 763,000 - HARDER THAN EVER - Lil Baby
32 - 761,000 - MAN OF THE WOODS - Justin Timberlake
33 - 759,000 - SHAWN MENDES - Shawn Mendes
34 - 733,000 - TRAVELLER - Chris Stapleton
35 - 733,000 - PRAY FOR THE WICKED - Panic At The Disco
36 - 729,000 - BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (OST) - Queen
37 - 727,000 - LIFE OF A DARK ROSE - Lil Skies
38 - 699,000 - CTRL - SZA
39 - 675,000 - MORE LIFE - Drake
40 - 663,000 - THE BEAUTIFUL AND DAMNED - G-Eazy
41 - 658,000 - COSMIC - Bazzi
42 - 657,000 - MY DEAR MELANCHOLY (EP) - The Weeknd
43 - 648,000 - THE WORLD IS YOURS - Rich The Kid
44 - 639,000 - PERCEPTION - NF
45 - 635,000 - LIFE CHANGES - Thomas Rhett
46 - 632,000 - DRIP HARDER - Lil Baby & Gunna
47 - 632,000 - HEARTBREAK ON A FULL MOON - Chris Brown
48 - 631,000 - YE - Kanye West
49 - 629,000 - VIEWS - Drake
50 - 601,000 - EXPECTATIONS - Bebe Rexha
51 - 590,000 - CRY PRETTY - Carrie Underwood
52 - 588,000 - YOUNGBLOOD - 5 Seconds Of Summer
53 - 585,000 - BOBBY TARANTINO II - Logic
54 - 577,000 - LOOK UP CHILD - Lauren Daigle
55 - 574,000 - DUA LIPA - Dua Lipa
56 - 570,000 - DAN + SHAY - Dan + Shay
57 - 566,000 - PROJECT BABY TWO - Kodak Black
58 - 565,000 - STARBOY - The Weeknd
59 - 565,000 - THE THRILL OF IT ALL - Sam Smith
60 - 562,000 - DONT SMILE AT ME - Billie Eilish
61 - 559,000 - BEAUTIFUL TRAUMA - P!nk
62 - 554,000 - CHAMPIONSHIPS - Meek Mill
63 - 553,000 - DAY69 - 6ix9ine
64 - 550,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake
65 - 548,000 - ELLA MAI - Ella Mai
66 - 537,000 - UNTIL DEATH CALL MY NAME - YoungBoy Never Broke Again
67 - 535,000 - MOANA - Soundtrack
68 - 529,000 - TELL ME YOU LOVE ME - Demi Lovato
69 - 528,000 - ODISEA - Ozuna
70 - 525,000 - HOPELESS FOUNTAIN KINGDOM - Halsey
71 - 523,000 - BRETT YOUNG - Brett Young
72 - 523,000 - CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS - Eminem
73 - 513,000 - DIAMONDS - Elton John
74 - 507,000 - WITHOUT WARNING - 21 Savage/Offset/Metro Boomin
75 - 507,000 - H.E.R. - H.E.R.
76 - 502,000 - EVERYTHING IS LOVE - Carters
77 - 494,000 - THE ESSENTIAL - Michael Jackson
78 - 494,000 - X - Ed Sheeran
79 - 493,000 - TRENCH - Twenty One Pilots
80 - 486,000 - LOVE YOURSELF: ANSWER - BTS
81 - 481,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons
82 - 473,000 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers
83 - 463,000 - SIMI - BlocBoy JB
84 - 459,000 - SWIMMING - Mac Miller
85 - 458,000 - REVIVAL - Eminem
86 - 446,000 - BLURRYFACE - Twenty One Pilots
87 - 445,000 - BIRDS IN THE TRAP SING MCKNIGHT - Travis Scott
88 - 444,000 - RUMOURS - Fleetwood Mac
89 - 442,000 - COME TOMORROW - Dave Matthews Band
90 - 442,000 - GREATEST HITS - Queen
91 - 441,000 - GREATEST HITS - Journey
92 - 441,000 - FROM A ROOM: VOLUME 1 - Chris Stapleton
93 - 441,000 - WHAT MAKES YOU COUNTRY - Luke Bryan
94 - 440,000 - CULTURE - Migos
95 - 435,000 - GREATEST HITS - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
96 - 429,000 - LIFE'S A TRIP - Trippie Redd
97 - 429,000 - LOVE YOURSELF: TEAR - BTS
98 - 428,000 - BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS - The Weeknd
99 - 427,000 - 2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE - J Cole
100 - 423,000 - CHRONICLE:THE 20 GREATEST HITS - Creedence Clearwater Revival
Billboard also favors pure sales. Same with RIAA. It's the way the music industry has operated up until about 8 years ago so it's not surprising.
yea true but IPFS is a lottt worse from what I remember, garbage metric
It doesn't. chartdata's updates on the units albums have moved is based on Billboard's EAS which only counts the units for albums that charted on the Billboard 200 so that tweet saying Scorpion has now sold over 6.5M total units in the US doesn't include the 1.1M pre-release units. Add that and it brings its total to about 7.6M towards the end of November 2021. From then till now, it's sold almost 400k units. That's in line with my calculations.
These were the top-selling albums of 2018 based on Billboard's EAS (which again, only accounts for sales of albums that chart on the Billboard 200, so if Drake drops an album that moves 5M units in pre-release units, this will only track sales for the album starting from what it does in it's first week charting on the Billboard 200).
ALBUM SPS WEEK 53Rank - Estimated EAS - TITLE - Artist
01 - 3,905,000 - SCORPION - Drake
02 - 3,251,000 - BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS - Post Malone
03 - 2,499,000 - THE GREATEST SHOWMAN - Soundtrack
04 - 2,055,000 - INVASION OF PRIVACY - Cardi B
05 - 1,985,000 - ASTROWORLD - Travis Scott
06 - 1,637,000 - ? - XXXTentacion
07 - 1,599,000 - CULTURE II - Migos
08 - 1,481,000 - ÷ - Ed Sheeran
09 - 1,459,000 - BLACK PANTHER: THE ALBUM - Soundtrack
10 - 1,388,000 - STONEY - Post Malone
11 - 1,168,000 - GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE - Juice WRLD
12 - 1,153,000 - KOD - J Cole
13 - 1,113,000 - KAMIKAZE - Eminem
14 - 1,110,000 - A STAR IS BORN (OST) - Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper
15 - 1,107,000 - EVOLVE - Imagine Dragons
16 - 1,083,000 - THA CARTER V - Lil Wayne
17 - 1,075,000 - THIS ONE'S FOR YOU - Luke Combs
18 - 1,072,000 - SWEETENER - Ariana Grande
19 - 1,032,000 - DAMN. - Kendrick Lamar
20 - 995,000 - CAMILA - Camila Cabello
21 - 988,000 - REPUTATION - Taylor Swift
22 - 955,000 - AMERICAN TEEN - Khalid
23 - 942,000 - 17 - XXXTentacion
24 - 935,000 - HAMILTON: AN AMERICAN MUSICAL - Original Cast
25 - 928,000 - QUEEN - Nicki Minaj
26 - 915,000 - REARVIEW TOWN - Jason Aldean
27 - 849,000 - LUV IS RAGE 2 - Lil Uzi Vert
28 - 824,000 - 24K MAGIC - Bruno Mars
29 - 820,000 - KANE BROWN - Kane Brown
30 - 808,000 - RED PILL BLUES - Maroon 5
31 - 763,000 - HARDER THAN EVER - Lil Baby
32 - 761,000 - MAN OF THE WOODS - Justin Timberlake
33 - 759,000 - SHAWN MENDES - Shawn Mendes
34 - 733,000 - TRAVELLER - Chris Stapleton
35 - 733,000 - PRAY FOR THE WICKED - Panic At The Disco
36 - 729,000 - BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (OST) - Queen
37 - 727,000 - LIFE OF A DARK ROSE - Lil Skies
38 - 699,000 - CTRL - SZA
39 - 675,000 - MORE LIFE - Drake
40 - 663,000 - THE BEAUTIFUL AND DAMNED - G-Eazy
41 - 658,000 - COSMIC - Bazzi
42 - 657,000 - MY DEAR MELANCHOLY (EP) - The Weeknd
43 - 648,000 - THE WORLD IS YOURS - Rich The Kid
44 - 639,000 - PERCEPTION - NF
45 - 635,000 - LIFE CHANGES - Thomas Rhett
46 - 632,000 - DRIP HARDER - Lil Baby & Gunna
47 - 632,000 - HEARTBREAK ON A FULL MOON - Chris Brown
48 - 631,000 - YE - Kanye West
49 - 629,000 - VIEWS - Drake
50 - 601,000 - EXPECTATIONS - Bebe Rexha
51 - 590,000 - CRY PRETTY - Carrie Underwood
52 - 588,000 - YOUNGBLOOD - 5 Seconds Of Summer
53 - 585,000 - BOBBY TARANTINO II - Logic
54 - 577,000 - LOOK UP CHILD - Lauren Daigle
55 - 574,000 - DUA LIPA - Dua Lipa
56 - 570,000 - DAN + SHAY - Dan + Shay
57 - 566,000 - PROJECT BABY TWO - Kodak Black
58 - 565,000 - STARBOY - The Weeknd
59 - 565,000 - THE THRILL OF IT ALL - Sam Smith
60 - 562,000 - DONT SMILE AT ME - Billie Eilish
61 - 559,000 - BEAUTIFUL TRAUMA - P!nk
62 - 554,000 - CHAMPIONSHIPS - Meek Mill
63 - 553,000 - DAY69 - 6ix9ine
64 - 550,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake
65 - 548,000 - ELLA MAI - Ella Mai
66 - 537,000 - UNTIL DEATH CALL MY NAME - YoungBoy Never Broke Again
67 - 535,000 - MOANA - Soundtrack
68 - 529,000 - TELL ME YOU LOVE ME - Demi Lovato
69 - 528,000 - ODISEA - Ozuna
70 - 525,000 - HOPELESS FOUNTAIN KINGDOM - Halsey
71 - 523,000 - BRETT YOUNG - Brett Young
72 - 523,000 - CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS - Eminem
73 - 513,000 - DIAMONDS - Elton John
74 - 507,000 - WITHOUT WARNING - 21 Savage/Offset/Metro Boomin
75 - 507,000 - H.E.R. - H.E.R.
76 - 502,000 - EVERYTHING IS LOVE - Carters
77 - 494,000 - THE ESSENTIAL - Michael Jackson
78 - 494,000 - X - Ed Sheeran
79 - 493,000 - TRENCH - Twenty One Pilots
80 - 486,000 - LOVE YOURSELF: ANSWER - BTS
81 - 481,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons
82 - 473,000 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers
83 - 463,000 - SIMI - BlocBoy JB
84 - 459,000 - SWIMMING - Mac Miller
85 - 458,000 - REVIVAL - Eminem
86 - 446,000 - BLURRYFACE - Twenty One Pilots
87 - 445,000 - BIRDS IN THE TRAP SING MCKNIGHT - Travis Scott
88 - 444,000 - RUMOURS - Fleetwood Mac
89 - 442,000 - COME TOMORROW - Dave Matthews Band
90 - 442,000 - GREATEST HITS - Queen
91 - 441,000 - GREATEST HITS - Journey
92 - 441,000 - FROM A ROOM: VOLUME 1 - Chris Stapleton
93 - 441,000 - WHAT MAKES YOU COUNTRY - Luke Bryan
94 - 440,000 - CULTURE - Migos
95 - 435,000 - GREATEST HITS - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
96 - 429,000 - LIFE'S A TRIP - Trippie Redd
97 - 429,000 - LOVE YOURSELF: TEAR - BTS
98 - 428,000 - BEAUTY BEHIND THE MADNESS - The Weeknd
99 - 427,000 - 2014 FOREST HILLS DRIVE - J Cole
100 - 423,000 - CHRONICLE:THE 20 GREATEST HITS - Creedence Clearwater Revival
I guess that makes sense
I guess that makes sense
Yeah, also, that's where Billboard and the RIAA differ from one another because the RIAA accounts for total sales/streams accumulated when certifying songs/albums. Billboard stops tracking an album/song once it falls out of the Billboard 200/Hot 100 but there are dozens of albums/songs not charting on the Billboard 200/Hot 100 which are moving units every week but just not enough to chart. The RIAA accounts for that while Billboard doesn't.