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  • Dec 19, 2022
    mangotflu

    yea I can't see Ariana outperforming her thank u next era, everything went perfectly for her then

    sza might even be #2, wouldn't surprise me if her album outperforms Adele's longterm since Adele's has done fairly poorly

    Her album will chart better than Adele's latest album, that's for sure.

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    I really can't see it going well for doja, I genuinely feel like she's made a huge mistake by pushing into white audiences rather than black, white audiences are way more fickle and care way less.

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    I really can't see it going well for doja, I genuinely feel like she's made a huge mistake by pushing into white audiences rather than black, white audiences are way more fickle and care way less.

    i mean she is more of a pop singer than a rapper and i don't think people really want to hear her just rap.

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    I just think she could have had a career similar to SZA, now I think she's gonna be stuck in this weird place where she doesn't have many diehard fans especially with her weird antics on social media in the past year

    btw I think this is the same mistake The Weeknd's made, even though he's huge, his album sales have suffered in the last few yrs compared to others and I really do believe it's because he's pushing too much into white audiences rather than pushing into black audiences more.

  • Dec 19, 2022

    Its not like she went pop she always been r&b and pop from the start

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    Get into it yuh

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    Yeah definitely but certain artists play into it more than others, mostly by who they collab with. The Weeknd barely has relevant rappers on his albums at all in recent years and I believe it's a huge reason why his sales are lower than they arguably should be

    That's why I don't think Doja Cat pushes forward with her career unless she has popping rappers like travis/durk/lilbaby etc on her album

    bieber another example of this, Justice didn't have a single popping rapper, he just had all the popular popping white artists instead. Album did really great out of the US but meh in the US cause americans just don't wanna hear that

  • Dec 19, 2022

    Congrats to SZA. Still couldn’t get into her album like that. Hopefully it grows on me.

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    mangotflu

    Yeah definitely but certain artists play into it more than others, mostly by who they collab with. The Weeknd barely has relevant rappers on his albums at all in recent years and I believe it's a huge reason why his sales are lower than they arguably should be

    That's why I don't think Doja Cat pushes forward with her career unless she has popping rappers like travis/durk/lilbaby etc on her album

    bieber another example of this, Justice didn't have a single popping rapper, he just had all the popular popping white artists instead. Album did really great out of the US but meh in the US cause americans just don't wanna hear that

    justice did 1.4 million in 2021

    m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=329710&title=THE-BIGGEST-ALBUMS-OF-2021&redirect=mobile

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    Yeah same I want Doja to do whatever too, I just don't see her becoming a superstar unless she moves more into r&b/rap, she doesn't even have to really rap, just make songs like Streets. That's what's hot right now

    Why do you think Abel is only doing 150k-200k streaming units an album then? it's much less than Trav, Drake, J Cole, SZA, Kendrick etc. He should be up there with them, but he isn't. Only a few yrs ago he was breaking streaming records with Starboy which had a few rappers

    his concerts still poppin tho, and like you said before there's a disconnect between streams & concerts for sure. lil baby can't tour for s***

    I just really don't think it's a coincidence at all that you've got artists like Summer Walker & SZA outstreaming Ariana Grande, Bieber at all

  • Dec 19, 2022
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    justice did 1.4 million in 2021

    https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=329710&title=THE-BIGGEST-ALBUMS-OF-2021&redirect=mobile

    yeah it's not even close to superstar levels when he could easily be up there, sza will probably sell 1.4m in the next 6 months with ease

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    yea but I feel like his previous albums mixed them both very well, especially Starboy. Dawn FM/After Hours could have easily fit any top rapper, it just feels like an intentional move by him & his team to move away from that corner of music and go more into the softer type

  • Dec 19, 2022

    Yeah for sure, but at this point it feels like it's a fact that rap/r&b (especially if it's relatable/personal) is where the streams are. whilst "happier" music which isn't personal just isn't as hot anymore

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    SZA can take my money. Album good.

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    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1604960323571630080https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1604960463074185216

    holy moly pure sales dead as hell

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