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  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Shabazz999

    the problem is that a few thousand stans with slush funds would inflate their favorite artist's numbers with mass buying. there is literally no reason for one person to buy 10 copies of the same album besides inflating sales

    Simple fix

    Artist x did

    100k - streaming
    50k - physcials copies (single)
    100k - physical copies (bulk)

    To just not count an actual sale because it’s in bulk but count playing 45 secs of a song and skipping to the next song is crazy to me

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    He not gunna outsell Damn first week without a single

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    Shabazz999

    the problem is that a few thousand stans with slush funds would inflate their favorite artist's numbers with mass buying. there is literally no reason for one person to buy 10 copies of the same album besides inflating sales

    aside from the new billboard rule, is it actually proven how much this has effected charts before or is it just speculation?

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    If somebody sold physicals like Adele and got streams like Drake, they’d be at 1.2 million

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Altar

    Kendrick at 500 is pretty f***ing bold in this era of streaming. Maybe like 350

    DAMN got 340 million streams first week. At that time the biggest first week stream number was held by Drake with More Life at 385 million. Drake still holds the record as far I know, with CLB getting 744 million.

    Streaming has blown up since DAMN. I think 600 million streams is pretty attainable for Kendrick. Possibly more given the long absence. That would give him 400k right there.

    His other albums still well on physicals, with GKMC being the highest selling rap album on vinyl (and vinyl sales have become the largest physical seller for a lot of artists).

    So I think 500k is attainable. I don’t think 1 million is attainable.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    CKL TML

    Gotta outsell cole at least

    Cole did 288K with The Off-Season.

  • Apr 23, 2022

    I think right around 500k is a good number. I think it'll beat CLB for streams per track because it'll almost certainly have less tracks. CLB did 35 million per track. 38 million streams per track with 15 songs equals 430k. Then I think he'll probably do around 70k pure because his fanbase buys music. So 500k

  • Apr 23, 2022

    there’s a music charts thread

  • Apr 23, 2022

    the only way kendrick does alot is if he has a long album. I dont think kendrick will do more than 14 tracks. So it will have an effect on album sales imo

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    shaleirose

    Kendrick is selling at least 400K. Easily.

    Off Season wasn’t as highly anticipated as Kendrick’s new album, and he hadn’t disappeared for 5 years before dropping it.

    Kendrick’s release date announcement borderline broke the internet the other day.

    Depending on how big of a lead single it has, it’s doing between 400 and 500K.

    I love how you're saying EASILY lol. It won't be easy for Kendrick to pull 400K units. It really all depends on the amount of units he's able to pull with pure sales. I can see 350-450M streams, that's about 260-335K units. The rest will be pure sales. Drake did 46K in pure sales with CLB and Cole did 37K in pure sales with TOS, so that should give you an idea of what Kendrick will do in pure sales.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    If Kendrick does a 14 track album or less he will barely scrape 300k.

    Numbers just won’t add up. He needs to have his highest streaming with slot of tracks to get to 450-500k and I just don’t see that happening.

    Cole did 350M US streams with 12 tracks. With 16 tracks, Kendrick should manage 420-450M US streams.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    JPEGMAFIA

    He not gunna outsell Damn first week without a single

    Even if he drops 20 singles between now and May 13, he's not outdoing DAMN's first week numbers.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Cole did 288K with The Off-Season.

    With 12 tracks that’s crazy

    The Off Seasons stream per song were close to Scorpions. Imagine if Cole released a 20 song album.

  • Apr 23, 2022
    Theory

    DAMN got 340 million streams first week. At that time the biggest first week stream number was held by Drake with More Life at 385 million. Drake still holds the record as far I know, with CLB getting 744 million.

    Streaming has blown up since DAMN. I think 600 million streams is pretty attainable for Kendrick. Possibly more given the long absence. That would give him 400k right there.

    His other albums still well on physicals, with GKMC being the highest selling rap album on vinyl (and vinyl sales have become the largest physical seller for a lot of artists).

    So I think 500k is attainable. I don’t think 1 million is attainable.

    It's worth noting that More Life did 385M streams in 5 days out of the tracking week. With 7 days, it would have easily done about 450M streams.

  • Apr 23, 2022
    KayTray

    With 12 tracks that’s crazy

    The Off Seasons stream per song were close to Scorpions. Imagine if Cole released a 20 song album.

    Would have probably done around 500-550M US streams.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Cole did 350M US streams with 12 tracks. With 16 tracks, Kendrick should manage 420-450M US streams.

    That’s still only 300k lol. That s*** isn’t happening. He might not even have 16 songs.

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    NewCopeJustDropped

    That’s still only 300k lol. That s*** isn’t happening. He might not even have 16 songs.

    Yeah, the less songs his album has, the less streams it'll pull. He doesn't have pure sales this time around to boost his numbers. For reference, DAMN did 353K in pure sales in it's first week. The new album might not even do 70K pure sales in it's first week.

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    Bring back bundles s*** was way more fun

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Yeah, the less songs his album has, the less streams it'll pull. He doesn't have pure sales this time around to boost his numbers. For reference, DAMN did 353K in pure sales in it's first week. The new album might not even do 70K pure sales in it's first week.

    Do you think it’s fair to be comparing 10-12 track album sales to 20-25 track album sales?

    It’s like 2 different leagues

  • Apr 23, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    Even if he drops 20 singles between now and May 13, he's not outdoing DAMN's first week numbers.

    I thought streaming has blown up since DAMN...

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    thegreatdivine

    I love how you're saying EASILY lol. It won't be easy for Kendrick to pull 400K units. It really all depends on the amount of units he's able to pull with pure sales. I can see 350-450M streams, that's about 260-335K units. The rest will be pure sales. Drake did 46K in pure sales with CLB and Cole did 37K in pure sales with TOS, so that should give you an idea of what Kendrick will do in pure sales.

    I’m saying easily because he will EASILY pull 400K. I don’t know why you’re comparing Cole to Kendrick because 1) Kendrick is much bigger than Cole, and 2) this is a highly anticipated album from an artist that hasn’t dropped solo music in 5 years, The Off Season had neither of those advantages going for it.

    Kendrick’s easily doing at least 400K. Depending on how big of a single he has, and also if he has merch/physicals ready to ship first week, he can reach 500-550K.

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    I’m saying easily because he will EASILY pull 400K. I don’t know why you’re comparing Cole to Kendrick because 1) Kendrick is much bigger than Cole, and 2) this is a highly anticipated album from an artist that hasn’t dropped solo music in 5 years, The Off Season had neither of those advantages going for it.

    Kendrick’s easily doing at least 400K. Depending on how big of a single he has, and also if he has merch/physicals ready to ship first week, he can reach 500-550K.

    Merch/physicals are out of the picture.

  • Apr 23, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    Merch/physicals are out of the picture.

    Not unless they ship first week.

  • Apr 23, 2022
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    I thought streaming has blown up since DAMN...

    It has but not in the way you think.

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    Oxnard

    Bring back bundles s*** was way more fun

    Actually tho.

    You're telling me I can get merch for $20 just so an artist I like can have bigger numbers? Sign me up

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