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  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    It’s not just a raw sales total though. We’re combining a lot of different factors here.

    Which is why MMLP isn’t really in the discussion because that album has aged terribly

    This is a sales thread and you guys are talking about subjective quality and opinions

  • John Mauve 🍺
    Oct 24, 2023

    Interesting conversation, however don't forget

  • John Mauve 🍺
    Oct 24, 2023
    Theory Talk Trader

    FATD objectively flopped

  • Oct 24, 2023
    pussy bacon

    MMLP is on a whole different level

    I agree bacon f*** all these guys

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Theory Talk Trader

    FATD objectively flopped

  • Oct 24, 2023

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  • Oct 24, 2023

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  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    This is a sales thread and you guys are talking about subjective quality and opinions

    It’s not all subjective though.

    Objectively, Views does not have 4 singles on the level of Stronger, Good Life, Can’t Tell Me Nothing, and Flashing Lights

  • Oct 24, 2023

    J Cole went platinum with no features.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    It’s not all subjective though.

    Objectively, Views does not have 4 singles on the level of Stronger, Good Life, Can’t Tell Me Nothing, and Flashing Lights

    I don't think the numeric amount of hits disqualifies it, One Dance was huge. Can't think of the rest, but the album was definitely that level

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    Vibe

    I don't think the numeric amount of hits disqualifies it, One Dance was huge. Can't think of the rest, but the album was definitely that level

    But that’s why we’re saying that albums like Grad and GRODT are in a different tier than albums like Carter 3 and Views.

    Classic albums that sold well with a legit handful of successful singles vs. classic that sold well with maybe only 1 or 2 smash hits

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Oh mental illness just entered the thread

    It was a good run

  • Oct 24, 2023
    mov

    Oh mental illness just entered the thread

    It was a good run

    She posted that like anyone claimed that Graduation sold more

    We know Views sold more, we were having a more layered discussion though

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    But that’s why we’re saying that albums like Grad and GRODT are in a different tier than albums like Carter 3 and Views.

    Classic albums that sold well with a legit handful of successful singles vs. classic that sold well with maybe only 1 or 2 smash hits

    I don't think this disqualifies it though, just seems like different circumstances for two albums lmao

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    I don't think this disqualifies it though, just seems like different circumstances for two albums lmao

    You yourself said albums like Views and Carter 3 were in a different tier from albums like GRODT. I just said that Grad belongs in the category with GRODT

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    You yourself said albums like Views and Carter 3 were in a different tier from albums like GRODT. I just said that Grad belongs in the category with GRODT

    Graduation having 4 (which can be debated) huge singles doesn't necessarily separate it from Views

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Vibe

    Graduation having 4 (which can be debated) huge singles doesn't necessarily separate it from Views

    How can it be debated?

    Stronger, Good Life, Can’t Tell Me Nothing, and Flashing Lights are all timeless hit records.

    Views has one of those at worst, two at best if we’re counting Hotline Bling

  • Oct 24, 2023

    What do you mean it never charted?? my favorite Madonna song

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    shaleirose

    How can it be debated?

    Stronger, Good Life, Can’t Tell Me Nothing, and Flashing Lights are all timeless hit records.

    Views has one of those at worst, two at best if we’re counting Hotline Bling

    Flashing Lights peaked at 29 while Good Life peaked at 7 for instance, I agree those are timeless though

    I don't understand this point of bigger singles, when Views as an album is still as big as Grad

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