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    As of August 3rd, 2023:

    From 1999-2015: 7 songs certified Diamond

    From December 2016 to August 2023: 113 songs certified Diamond

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    shaleirose

    As of August 3rd, 2023:

    From 1999-2015: 7 songs certified Diamond

    From December 2016 to August 2023: 113 songs certified Diamond

    Thats crazy

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    mov

    Thats crazy

    No one’s saying it’s easy, but anyone saying it’s not easier to do in the streaming era is flat out incorrect

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    shaleirose

    You’re right.

    But it is easier to do than it used to be.

    No, it isn't. It's still just as hard, you just refuse to acknowledge that. Same way y'all think it's easy getting an album to debut with 500M+ US streams and you think it's easy getting 7+ top 10 hits off an album. You see Drake do it consistently so you imagine it must be easy, but is isn't easy. Same way Taylor doing 1M+ with 6 albums isn't easy. Because one artist it a few select artists can do something doesn't make it easy.

    The Beatles were scoring #1 hits like candy back in the 50s and the 60s. Doesn't mean it was easy to do. They could just do it more expressly than everyone else. Same goes for all the legends with 10+ #1 hits who did it in their time. They did it, not because it was easy, but because they were the biggest artists of their respective eras.

    I know it's impossible for y'all to do but it won't kill you to just give Drake/other artists their props without trying to put an asterisk beside their accomplishments.

    If what Drake was doing was so easy to do, everyone would be doing it. It isn't easy.

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    By 2035/2040, with these current rules, it’s very possible that there will be over 500 Diamond certified songs.

    RIAA is definitely either going to add a higher Certification or updates the rules for Diamond eligibility

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    shaleirose

    By 2035/2040, with these current rules, it’s very possible that there will be over 500 Diamond certified songs.

    RIAA is definitely either going to add a higher Certification or updates the rules for Diamond eligibility

    25x Platinum - Emerald certification

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    thegreatdivine

    No, it isn't. It's still just as hard, you just refuse to acknowledge that. Same way y'all think it's easy getting an album to debut with 500M+ US streams and you think it's easy getting 7+ top 10 hits off an album. You see Drake do it consistently so you imagine it must be easy, but is isn't easy. Same way Taylor doing 1M+ with 6 albums isn't easy. Because one artist it a few select artists can do something doesn't make it easy.

    The Beatles were scoring #1 hits like candy back in the 50s and the 60s. Doesn't mean it was easy to do. They could just do it more expressly than everyone else. Same goes for all the legends with 10+ #1 hits who did it in their time. They did it, not because it was easy, but because they were the biggest artists of their respective eras.

    I know it's impossible for y'all to do but it won't kill you to just give Drake/other artists their props without trying to put an asterisk beside their accomplishments.

    If what Drake was doing was so easy to do, everyone would be doing it. It isn't easy.

    It’s not even about Drake

    There were 113 songs certified Diamond from December 2016 to August 2023, opposed to a total of seven songs certified Diamond from 1999 to 2015.

    This isn’t directed at Drake whatsoever

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    jack johnson

    25x Platinum - Emerald certification

    Yeah I think it’s most likely they’ll just add a higher Certification. Because if they change the minimum units for Diamond to a higher figure, it’ll be kinda unfair for songs that reach 10 million units and won’t be Diamond eligible

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    jack johnson

    25x Platinum - Emerald certification

    Also, if this were to happen, I wonder what the first Emerald song would be

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    shaleirose

    Also, if this were to happen, I wonder what the first Emerald song would be

    Either Uptown Funk (elegible for 2x Diamond) or Sunflower

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    shaleirose

    It’s not even about Drake

    There were 113 songs certified Diamond from December 2016 to August 2023, opposed to a total of seven songs certified Diamond from 1999 to 2015.

    This isn’t directed at Drake whatsoever

    It's many albums/singles from the 80s/90s/early 2000s which are yet to have their certifications updated. Doesn't mean dozens of songs from that time haven't crossed the Diamond mark — many simply haven't been updated yet.

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    shaleirose

    One of three things is definitely gonna happen in the coming years:

    1. RIAA is gonna change the number of units required for a song to be certified Diamond.

    2. Rules for streaming equivalent units will be updated and it will take more total streams to equate to one total sale. It’s also possible we could see a time limit implemented on streams becoming additional sales units, but that would be super controversial.

    Or 3. There will be another Certification created that is higher than Diamond, and most likely starting at either 20 or 25 million units sold

    i doubt they'll care to change anything now hits don't really exist, i can't see music fixing itself

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    thegreatdivine

    It's many albums/singles from the 80s/90s/early 2000s which are yet to have their certifications updated. Doesn't mean dozens of songs from that time haven't crossed the Diamond mark — many simply haven't been updated yet.

    Yeah, but the point is that before streaming, most of them weren’t even eligible to be certified Diamond.

  • Oct 30, 2023
    mangotflu

    i doubt they'll care to change anything now hits don't really exist, i can't see music fixing itself

    To me I would just assume that the RIAA would want their highest award to remain Uber-prestigious, also the industry always updates their rules to reflect the times and technological advancements. I would be shocked if they don’t change or tweak their Certification rules whatsoever within the next decade

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    shaleirose

    Yeah, but the point is that before streaming, most of them weren’t even eligible to be certified Diamond.

    And the same can be said for how hard it is get a Diamond album in the streaming era. Only 1 album released since 2015 has gone Diamond and that's Adele's 25. Scorpion and Views are two of the biggest albums of the streaming era and it'll take Views at least 10 years to reach Diamond and it'll take Scorpion at least 8 years to do the same. For comparison, Usher's Confessions album did 8M units in 9 months and sold over 10M units in a year and that album dropped in 2004. Taylor Swift's Midnights album debuted with 1.5M units and just crossed 6M units after 53 weeks, and that's one of the biggest albums ever.

    A bulk of the 100+ songs that have been certified Diamond since 2015 weren't actually released in the streaming era, they just reached the Diamond mark in the streaming era, but the bulk of their sold units were digital sales. It still doesn't make it easy to do. Nothing is easy.

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    only 1 album since 2015 to be certified diamond is completely fine to me lol

    eventually other albums will be certified too

  • Oct 30, 2023
    mov

    That s*** is the most rigged Diamond certification of all time and I'm not hating on Drake... Drake is the only listenable part of this song lol

    I done flew one out to Spain to be in my domain and Audemars’d the b****

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    thriller is everywhere this year

    the mall, parties, s*** even hold music

    cant escape it

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    shaleirose

    Yeah I think it’s most likely they’ll just add a higher Certification. Because if they change the minimum units for Diamond to a higher figure, it’ll be kinda unfair for songs that reach 10 million units and won’t be Diamond eligible

    New mastery camo. Gonna have albums certified 6x Dark Matter

  • Oct 31, 2023

    Why would RIAA feel the need to make diamonds harder because there are way more of them now? It really doesn’t bother them one way or the other. In fact, labels need to pay up for updates and certifications so they actually make more money from this.

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