jynth

2y

It’s true though, carnival is 100% bigger than every drake hit this decade. that doesn’t mean he’s bigger overall. im saying this as someone who thinks drake has been the far better artist for 7 years now

maybe drake’s 2020s hits would have more staying power if the nigga didn't act like he’s too cool to care about his songs after dropping them lmao that’s on him

quadra

2y

Them 3x white sales ain't moving anybody
It's like prime Eminem

No impact

BRAVE

2y

You’re talking about pop music as if it’s a meritocracy

Great hooks are tho. Hype and demand will always come down to great hooks at the core. These mfs just start having lackluster hooks tbh that’s why they start selling less than before (and that’s not to minimize - hooks are just THAT important)

jynth

2y

It’s true though, carnival is 100% bigger than every drake hit this decade. that doesn’t mean he’s bigger overall. im saying this as someone who thinks drake has been the far better artist for 7 years now

maybe drake’s 2020s hits would have more staying power if the nigga didn't act like he’s too cool to care about his songs after dropping them lmao that’s on him

Plight

2y

Listening to a washed 50 year old scream out of tune about how scared he is for his children bc of the jews. You have to be delusional to enjoy that

Jaman

2y

im delusional. keep hatin carnival out now number 1. mega hit.

Plight

2y

When was the last time Kanye carried a track

Jaman

2y

burn. problematic.

Plight

2y

A song people listen to

Jaman

2y

burn has tons of streams. as i said stop hatin. i gather u dont like his music or whatever but the facts is carnival is a big hit 20 years into his career post whatever shenanigans you can think of.

Plight

2y

He got one part on the song

Jaman

2y

yea dats usually the case for songs wit 4 people on it. verse hook verse hook etc etc

Plight

2y

Listening to a washed 50 year old scream out of tune about how scared he is for his children bc of the jews. You have to be delusional to enjoy that

jynth

2y

let’s not play the subject matter game, drake is well on his way to being the same kinda nigga seeing as his subject matter at 37 is no better than ye’s was at that age

and no toosie slide wasn’t bigger cmon

jynth

2y

let’s not play the subject matter game, drake is well on his way to being the same kinda nigga seeing as his subject matter at 37 is no better than ye’s was at that age

and no toosie slide wasn’t bigger cmon

jynth

2y

let’s not play the subject matter game, drake is well on his way to being the same kinda nigga seeing as his subject matter at 37 is no better than ye’s was at that age

and no toosie slide wasn’t bigger cmon

Free YoungBoy

2y

Don’t even argue with that clown. Dude was working overtime to convince everyone that interview he did with that white girl was the peak of dry humor or some bullshit.

Kids a joke. Just a crazed Stan

Plight

2y

You talking to me? Nikedufflebag

Free YoungBoy

2y

Of course

Plight

2y

W cope

2words

2y

I’m not going to say you don’t have a point at all, memorable hooks are a factor and currency. What makes a “great” hook is a little debatable but I assume you just mean hooks that grab the public attention. Idk if it’s black and white that pop hits are 100% the best hooks though.

It’s a part of pop song craft to have a catchy simple memorable hook, and if you have a hook that resonates obviously that’s good. But to suggest it’s on a true meritocracy level sounds like stretch. So many things go into it now, including how an artist looks and their social media presence. You saying there’s not artists with great hooks that never broke? Because that wouldn’t be a meritocracy.

It’s no songs that the public missed that could’ve hit big with the right push that many other hits have benefitted from? Or perhaps the right music video and visual presentation or meme format? Or even the song being given to a more marketable artist?

Maybe I’m taking you too literal there but it’s known you need a lot of money and in most cases need to be visually appealing or marketable outside the music in some way to break a record, it’s not as simple as a “great hook” anymore from where I’m sitting, though it helps to have one

Edit: chopped a bunch to be more concise (lol)