thegreatdivine

2y

His commercial dominance has nothing to do with him being perfect or not. These aren't debates about the quality of his music. You tried multiple times in the last few days to downplay his dominance on rap (a stupid thing to do when he has remained the most dominant rap artist for the better part of two decades) and when you got called out on it, you started crying about people making him out to be a victim when they're just calling out the stupidity in your statements. If it's not downplaying his impact, it's trying to credit other people for his own success. Just consistent stupidity when it comes to your points.

Also, no one gives a f*** that you're a Drake fan. Even people who spend all day on here hating on Drake listen to his music. That's not a secret to anyone.

roselei

2y

Or maybe… Drake and Kanye are just 15+ and 20+ years into their respective careers so they won’t be selling as high as their commercial peaks anymore?

Midzy

2y

Who said anything about them reaching their commercial peaks again? With every post you try to put words in my mouth, very annoying.

roselei

2y

You said For All the Dogs didn’t sell because it was s***… it sold 400K first week…

Midzy

2y

Underperformed for Drake. I don't even know what you're arguing about

Nicki outdid Queen and she's like 14 years into her career. What are you trying to say lmao, you don't think Drake could do 500k again?

roselei

2y

Lil Baby literally performed at Cole’s own festival in 2022… but sure he’s bigger than him!

roselei

2y

And again, I never said that. Nobody’s downplaying his dominance. I quite literally acknowledged that he’s still the biggest rapper in the world. All I and the others were saying is that he doesn’t have MAJOR HIT records this decade the same way he did from 2009-2019.

You don’t have to be the biggest rapper on the planet to have a major hit record, look at the 2000s.

When we look back in twenty years and tell the story of 2020s rap and the essential singles that dropped during this decade, Drake (at least so far), won’t be in that convo

My Turn

2y

"When we look back in twenty years and tell the story of 2020s rap and the essential singles that dropped during this decade, Drake (at least so far), won’t be in that convo"

walmart mo bamba wont either then

My Turn

2y

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theres a difference between ur current music being relvant and selling (which is what we are referring) and being an established artist 10+ years in the game who can sell tickets to a concert.

my turn is one of the biggest albums this decade. which he was coming off of when he was featured on clb...

roselei

2y

If you think J. Cole is a legacy act, you don't know what legacy act means

roselei

2y

The first #1 from one of the most polarizing rappers of the 2020s with a cult fanbase won't be in the convo?

KayTray

2y

Calling J. Cole a legacy act

My Turn

2y

if no drake song will then no.

My Turn

2y

jcole been out 15 years now... and u get the point either way.

roselei

2y

Or maybe… Drake and Kanye are just 15+ and 20+ years into their respective careers so they won’t be selling as high as their commercial peaks anymore?

My Turn

2y

this is what i really meant by legacy act.

roselei

2y

None of those guys are legacy acts though

roselei

2y

I don't even think you understand what I'm saying or talking about

My Turn

2y

you saying drake dont have any major hits this decade is delusional. i dont know why you hate him so much. Were you not able to get a ticket to its all a blur?

roselei

2y

Drake drops a project every single year, that was Nicki's first release since 2018

Midzy

2y

Okay DAMN by Kendrick dropped in 2017 and his last album underperformed.

What's the excuse there?

roselei

2y

It's one of 11 total albums to sell higher than 290K first week since 2022.

So did it really underperform, or are sales just down across the board?

But if you do wanna make the argument that it underperformed, the explanation is simple: it's not an accessible album whatsoever.

Pink Friday 2 was made for the charts, Mr. Morale was not, and it still sold pretty well looking back in hindsight