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  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    All this nigga does is cherry pick. Imagine thinking a song like Espresso wasn’t a mega hit because it didn’t finish in the Top 5 of the Year-End Chart

    Espresso is again a great example though lol because that song really wasn't a "megahit" in the US at all. I don't think it was even half as big as songs like The Box, Sicko Mode, God's Plan etc

    It was much bigger outside the US. The US in general just doesn't really have megahits anymore like it used to

    If you weren't being such a hoe you'd also see that megahits in the US have become so much rarer than they used to be lol. The industry used to revolve around these huge songs, but now it seems to revolve around albums instead

    Go look at a list of the biggest songs of like 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 etc and compare them to 2023, 2024. The difference is ridiculous

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    mangotflu

    Espresso is again a great example though lol because that song really wasn't a "megahit" in the US at all. I don't think it was even half as big as songs like The Box, Sicko Mode, God's Plan etc

    It was much bigger outside the US. The US in general just doesn't really have megahits anymore like it used to

    If you weren't being such a hoe you'd also see that megahits in the US have become so much rarer than they used to be lol. The industry used to revolve around these huge songs, but now it seems to revolve around albums instead

    Go look at a list of the biggest songs of like 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 etc and compare them to 2023, 2024. The difference is ridiculous

    Espresso is again a great example though lol because that song really wasn't a "megahit" in the US at all. I don't think it was even half as big as songs like The Box, Sicko Mode, God's Plan etc

    Espresso is STILL on the Hot 100 after 45 weeks of charting.

    God’s Plan charted for 36 weeks.

    The Box for 38 weeks.

    Sicko Mode for 52 weeks.

    Espresso will absolutely either catch or pass Sicko Mode since it is still at #17 after 45 weeks and doesn’t show any signs of slowing down.

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    Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    Espresso is again a great example though lol because that song really wasn't a "megahit" in the US at all. I don't think it was even half as big as songs like The Box, Sicko Mode, God's Plan etc

    Espresso is STILL on the Hot 100 after 45 weeks of charting.

    God’s Plan charted for 36 weeks.

    The Box for 38 weeks.

    Sicko Mode for 52 weeks.

    Espresso will absolutely either catch or pass Sicko Mode since it is still at #17 after 45 weeks and doesn’t show any signs of slowing down.

    these are just chart stats

    i thought you said sales were the best way to determine if a song is a mega hit

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    SWAN

    these are just chart stats

    i thought you said sales were the best way to determine if a song is a mega hit

    No, I said that chart longevity was the best measurement of how big a record was.

    Also, if you wanna bring up sales, Espresso went 5x Platinum in 8 months

  • Feb 28, 2025
    mos def


    Best song on the album and a highlight in Kendricks career. Absolutely amazing rap track

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    crazy that kill bill was only #1 for a week, still not crazier than snooze never going #1

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Shabazz999

    crazy that kill bill was only #1 for a week, still not crazier than snooze never going #1

    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1894843822993199372

    And yet Kill Bill was on the chart for 52 weeks, and Snooze for 70 weeks.

    Examples like these are why I will always stand on the fact that chart longevity will always be more important then chart position

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    No, I said that chart longevity was the best measurement of how big a record was.

    Also, if you wanna bring up sales, Espresso went 5x Platinum in 8 months

    You do realize there are periods where the charts are strong and have huge competition and other periods where the charts are weak and easy to perform well at, right? Charts depends on competition while the formula for sales are constant

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Zack From The Six

    You do realize there are periods where the charts are strong and have huge competition and other periods where the charts are weak and easy to perform well at, right? Charts depends on competition while the formula for sales are constant

    2024 was an extremely competitive year on the Hot 100

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    2024 was an extremely competitive year on the Hot 100

    Your statement was that ''chart longevity was the best measurement of how big a record was''. That's an overall statement and not just for a specific year or period.

    Incorrect statement

  • Feb 28, 2025
    Zack From The Six

    Your statement was that ''chart longevity was the best measurement of how big a record was''. That's an overall statement and not just for a specific year or period.

    Incorrect statement

    It is correct, especially when you’re comparing songs that not that far apart in release. Y’all act like 2018 and 2020 was decades ago.

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Answer me this, @Zackbrah

    Why does Drake have zero songs as a lead artist that charted for more than 36 weeks total on the Hot 100?

    He drops literally every single year, and there has been at least one song every year of the past 6-7 years to chart for 40+ weeks.

    Why does he have none?

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    Answer me this, @Zackbrah

    Why does Drake have zero songs as a lead artist that charted for more than 36 weeks total on the Hot 100?

    He drops literally every single year, and there has been at least one song every year of the past 6-7 years to chart for 40+ weeks.

    Why does he have none?

    God's Plan spent 36 weeks on the Hot 100

    It's 16x platinum

    You got songs that spent 50 weeks on the Hot 100 and they didn't even go 5x platinum

    You gotta start using your brain man

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Zack From The Six

    God's Plan spent 36 weeks on the Hot 100

    It's 16x platinum

    You got songs that spent 50 weeks on the Hot 100 and they didn't even go 5x platinum

    You gotta start using your brain man

    That’s not what I asked.

    I asked why doesn’t he have any songs as a lead artist that charted for longer than that?

    I Like It by Cardi B dropped a few months after God’s Plan and charted for 51 weeks.

    God’s Plan being as big as it was, you would think it would’ve charted for 50 weeks at minimum.

    Why do all of Drake’s hits have super fast peaks and then can’t stick around as long as some of his peers’ hits?

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    That’s not what I asked.

    I asked why doesn’t he have any songs as a lead artist that charted for longer than that?

    I Like It by Cardi B dropped a few months after God’s Plan and charted for 51 weeks.

    God’s Plan being as big as it was, you would think it would’ve charted for 50 weeks at minimum.

    Why do all of Drake’s hits have super fast peaks and then can’t stick around as long as some of his peers’ hits?

    songs going diamond within 3-4 years had fast peaks? You do realize you don't go diamond if you don't get streams right?

    Radio points keep songs stuck on the charts for ages, especially pop radio

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Zack From The Six

    songs going diamond within 3-4 years had fast peaks? You do realize you don't go diamond if you don't get streams right?

    Radio points keep songs stuck on the charts for ages, especially pop radio

    God’s Plan was sent to Pop radio

  • Feb 28, 2025
    Shabazz999

    kendrick featuring kendrick

    https://twitter.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1895465368665080067

    Wow

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    “Super Bowl boost”

    Oh they let you out the mute?

  • Feb 28, 2025
    SyIIabIes

    Oh they let you out the mute?

    Yeah it was just a day

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    God’s Plan was sent to Pop radio

    What are you even trying to say, Fader? A song that spent 50 weeks on the chart but went 4x platinum is more successful or was more popular than the song that spent 36 weeks but is 16x platinum?

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    Zack From The Six

    What are you even trying to say, Fader? A song that spent 50 weeks on the chart but went 4x platinum is more successful or was more popular than the song that spent 36 weeks but is 16x platinum?

    I’m asking you why don’t Drake’s hits have the same longevity as his peers’ hits do

    How does a song like God’s Plan completely fall off the Hot 100 after just a little over a half a year?

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    I’m asking you why don’t Drake’s hits have the same longevity as his peers’ hits do

    How does a song like God’s Plan completely fall off the Hot 100 after just a little over a half a year?

    How can a song become diamond within a few years without longevity, Fader? Especially when the ''peers' hits'' aren't even close to selling as much as those songs, Fader?

  • Feb 28, 2025
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    TheFader

    And yet Kill Bill was on the chart for 52 weeks, and Snooze for 70 weeks.

    Examples like these are why I will always stand on the fact that chart longevity will always be more important then chart position

    I've always thought this.

    A song that peaks #17 and stays on the chart for over a year is better than a top 10 hit that falls off after a few months

  • Feb 28, 2025
    Shabazz999

    kendrick featuring kendrick

    https://twitter.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1895465368665080067

    "Timeless"

  • Feb 28, 2025
    Shabazz999

    crazy that kill bill was only #1 for a week, still not crazier than snooze never going #1

    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1894843822993199372

    Snooze never went #1?

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