goretex 💁🏽♂️Mar 5#wherewereu
Mar 5·edited·2 replies
TheFaderWrong again. This conversation started because you said that the commercial performance of $$$4U and Hurry Up Tomorrow should be compared since they are both R&B albums.
Hurry Up Tomorrow is not an R&B album.
He has not released an R&B album in 12 years.
I never said he didn’t still have R&B songs on these albums.
Wrong. I said the “Pop artist excuse” doesn’t work for The Weeknd, because he has made multiple genres of music throughout his career, and consistently appealed to the same R&B/Hip-Hop demographic of someone like Drake, SZA, Beyonce, etc.
He is not a Shawn Mendes type vanilla Pop artist who truly only makes straight Pop music.
Weeknd is associated with Metro Boomin, Future, Kendrick, Drake, etc. Plenty of fans of those artists would also play new music by him in a heartbeat.
You would never hear a true “solely Pop” artist on those playlists next to those artists with any of their music
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Mar 5iHype· edited
Wrong. I said the “Pop artist excuse” doesn’t work for The Weeknd, because he has made multiple genres of music throughout his career, and consistently appealed to the same R&B/Hip-Hop demographic of someone like Drake, SZA, Beyonce, etc.
He is not a Shawn Mendes type vanilla Pop artist who truly only makes straight Pop music.
Weeknd is associated with Metro Boomin, Future, Kendrick, Drake, etc. Plenty of fans of those artists would also play new music by him in a heartbeat.
You would never hear a true “solely Pop” artist on those playlists next to those artists with any of their music
bro just drop it this nigga will go all day long man
- Mar 5·1 replyiHype
Wrong. I said the “Pop artist excuse” doesn’t work for The Weeknd, because he has made multiple genres of music throughout his career, and consistently appealed to the same R&B/Hip-Hop demographic of someone like Drake, SZA, Beyonce, etc.
He is not a Shawn Mendes type vanilla Pop artist who truly only makes straight Pop music.
Weeknd is associated with Metro Boomin, Future, Kendrick, Drake, etc. Plenty of fans of those artists would also play new music by him in a heartbeat.
You would never hear a true “solely Pop” artist on those playlists next to those artists with any of their music
You’re assuming that “Pop” automatically means vanilla pop music. That sounds like a you problem.
The Weeknd is a pop artist who makes pop albums. Hope this helps.
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
You’re assuming that “Pop” automatically means vanilla pop music. That sounds like a you problem.
The Weeknd is a pop artist who makes pop albums. Hope this helps.
Because it does lmao.
If you’re going by a broad nonsensical version then Drake & Kendrick are also “pop artist” so.
- Mar 5iHype
Because it does lmao.
If you’re going by a broad nonsensical version then Drake & Kendrick are also “pop artist” so.
No, I’m talking about the genre of pop music.
Kendrick Lamar has never made a song like Blinding Lights or Open Hearts
Do you realize that Michael Jackson was a pop artist as well?
- Mar 5·2 replies
Katy Perry, Shawn Mendes, Tate McRae = straight up Pop artists
Weeknd, Rihanna, SZA = artists who make crossover music that often appeals to Pop
Hope this helps
- Mar 5·1 replyiHype
Katy Perry, Shawn Mendes, Tate McRae = straight up Pop artists
Weeknd, Rihanna, SZA = artists who make crossover music that often appeals to Pop
Hope this helps
“White = Pop
Black = Crossover R&B artists”
Is what you meant to say
- Mar 5·2 replies
This nigga deadass can’t name a black pop artist
And he wonder why I called him racist
- Mar 5TheFader
“White = Pop
Black = Crossover R&B artists”
Is what you meant to say
Full R&B albums at any point, dozens of R&B/Hip-Hop collabs, and R&B/Hip-Hop songs on every single album = crossover act with different genres
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
This nigga deadass can’t name a black pop artist
And he wonder why I called him racist
Jason Derulo would be an example of a fully Pop black artist.
- Mar 5iHype
Jason Derulo would be an example of a fully Pop black artist.
And who else?
- Mar 5·1 reply
I knew Jason Derulo would be the first and only name mentioned
This nigga a straight up racist
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
This nigga deadass can’t name a black pop artist
And he wonder why I called him racist
names one
proceeds to say “I KNEW HE’D NAME ONE”
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
I knew Jason Derulo would be the first and only name mentioned
This nigga a straight up racist
Racist would be implying black people cant be different genres which is quite exactly what you are hellbent on doing
Mar 5·1 replygoretexthis was 10 years ago.
you're holding onto comments and statements made by chronically online parasocial losers from 10 years ago.
we were debating about the origin of these weird sales stan wars, not every debate has to be emotionally investing like you fam
i know you’ll fight soneone just to taste drake’s d***
- Mar 5iHype
names one
proceeds to say “I KNEW HE’D NAME ONE”
Name another
Name a black male pop artist active right now
- Mar 5iHype
Racist would be implying black people cant be different genres which is quite exactly what you are hellbent on doing
I have literally never said that once.
Black artists get boxed into RAP and R&B and SOUL.
Saying a black artist is a Pop artist is not a racist statement because that is not a genre they routinely get lumped into due to the color of their skin
- Mar 5
The reality is that factually the majority of black mainstream artists don’t do just one genre.
Black artists generally have to be diverse musically and multi-faceted to rise to the top.
White artists can get by on making the one same sound for an entire career and being mainstream level huge
- Mar 5·1 reply
By “crossover” you are trying to say “this person’s skin is black so they appeal to black people who like rap and R&B music”
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
By “crossover” you are trying to say “this person’s skin is black so they appeal to black people who like rap and R&B music”
Or they factually have made music of completely different genres very frequently.
- Mar 5·1 replyiHype
Or they factually have made music of completely different genres very frequently.
Is $$$4U an R&B album?
- Mar 5·1 replyTheFader
Is $$$4U an R&B album?
Yep. And even then, it still has multiple Hip-Hop songs.
I would not find it unreasonable for someone to deem Drake does various different genres and shouldn’t be solely classified as Rap/a rapper lmao.
You can include him in discussions on rappers and discussions on pop stars.
- Mar 5·1 replyiHype
Yep. And even then, it still has multiple Hip-Hop songs.
I would not find it unreasonable for someone to deem Drake does various different genres and shouldn’t be solely classified as Rap/a rapper lmao.
You can include him in discussions on rappers and discussions on pop stars.
Okay. So $$$4U is an R&B album.
What genre is Hurry Up Tomorrow?
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Mar 5LUKAS
we were debating about the origin of these weird sales stan wars, not every debate has to be emotionally investing like you fam
i know you’ll fight soneone just to taste drake’s d***
Shut up white man