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  • Slingshot

    Does Drake’s team have to initiate this? Or UMG

    Maybe going for a huge radio record would hurt their court case so they holding back for this entire album cycle and keeping it all streaming

    Probably both. Its basically the same thing.

  • Mafia Boss

    I think Doechii got Ice Spice beat already. Ice only has like 6 hits I think. If Doechii drop in next 6 months i think she could do 70k to 100k first week just with streaming. She will probabaly have Kendrick and Sza feats as well.

    150k first week imo

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    TheFader

    How many hits does Doechii really have though?

    using hot 100 peak dates

    Ice Spice:
    munch (mid-late 2022)
    boys a liar (3/23)
    in ha mood (3/23)
    princess diana (4/23)
    Karma (6/23)
    Barbie World (7/23)
    Deli (8/23)
    think u the s*** (2/24)
    did it first (8/24)

    Doechii:
    what it is (10/23)
    balloon (11/24)
    DIAR (2/25)
    Nissan (2/25
    Extra (3/25)
    ANXIETY (3/25)
    Anxiety (3/25)

    doechii didnt even use big feats yet.

  • Your Average Jet

    150k first week imo

    I think its possible depending on features and if people buy physicals.

    Industry seems to really like her so she could probably get big pop features if her team asks and kendrick and sza. Plus other rappers.

  • TheFader

    How many hits does Doechii really have though?

    "What It Is" and "Denial Is A River"

    "Nissan Altima" was a minor hit I guess. Just missed Top 20 at Urban radio but had like a 4 month run there. Didn't stream that well though

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    Mafia Boss

    using hot 100 peak dates

    Ice Spice:
    munch (mid-late 2022)
    boys a liar (3/23)
    in ha mood (3/23)
    princess diana (4/23)
    Karma (6/23)
    Barbie World (7/23)
    Deli (8/23)
    think u the s*** (2/24)
    did it first (8/24)

    Doechii:
    what it is (10/23)
    balloon (11/24)
    DIAR (2/25)
    Nissan (2/25
    Extra (3/25)
    ANXIETY (3/25)
    Anxiety (3/25)

    doechii didnt even use big feats yet.

    Hot 100 Peaks:

    Ice Spice:
    Boys a Liar, Pt. 2 - #3
    In Ha Mood - #58
    Princess Diana - #4
    Karma - #2
    Barbie World - #7
    Deli - #41
    Think U The S*** (Fart) - #37
    Did It First - #51

    Doechii:
    What It Is - #29
    Balloon - #56
    DENIAL IS A RIVER - #21
    NISSAN ALTIMA - #73
    ExtraL - #75

    Ice’s hits were clearly way bigger

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    TheFader

    Hot 100 Peaks:

    Ice Spice:
    Boys a Liar, Pt. 2 - #3
    In Ha Mood - #58
    Princess Diana - #4
    Karma - #2
    Barbie World - #7
    Deli - #41
    Think U The S*** (Fart) - #37
    Did It First - #51

    Doechii:
    What It Is - #29
    Balloon - #56
    DENIAL IS A RIVER - #21
    NISSAN ALTIMA - #73
    ExtraL - #75

    Ice’s hits were clearly way bigger

    Niggas trying to act like that had the same energy for Ice that they have for Doechii. Lol

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    TheFader

    Hot 100 Peaks:

    Ice Spice:
    Boys a Liar, Pt. 2 - #3
    In Ha Mood - #58
    Princess Diana - #4
    Karma - #2
    Barbie World - #7
    Deli - #41
    Think U The S*** (Fart) - #37
    Did It First - #51

    Doechii:
    What It Is - #29
    Balloon - #56
    DENIAL IS A RIVER - #21
    NISSAN ALTIMA - #73
    ExtraL - #75

    Ice’s hits were clearly way bigger

    Ice Spices were more reliant on collabs. Doechii's are also bigger outside the US. Extra is #18 on Global 200 for example.

    You also were not counting the two Anxiety songs which are taking off at the same time as a few of the others...

  • TheFader

    Hot 100 Peaks:

    Ice Spice:
    Boys a Liar, Pt. 2 - #3
    In Ha Mood - #58
    Princess Diana - #4
    Karma - #2
    Barbie World - #7
    Deli - #41
    Think U The S*** (Fart) - #37
    Did It First - #51

    Doechii:
    What It Is - #29
    Balloon - #56
    DENIAL IS A RIVER - #21
    NISSAN ALTIMA - #73
    ExtraL - #75

    Ice’s hits were clearly way bigger

    tbf ice had nicki and taylor swift collabs on 3 of those hits 😭

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    JRob1125

    Niggas trying to act like that had the same energy for Ice that they have for Doechii. Lol

    Lots of people did not like Ice Spice and thought she was a fad. Doechii is barely getting any actual hate aside from a few tweets.

  • TheFader

    Hot 100 Peaks:

    Ice Spice:
    Boys a Liar, Pt. 2 - #3
    In Ha Mood - #58
    Princess Diana - #4
    Karma - #2
    Barbie World - #7
    Deli - #41
    Think U The S*** (Fart) - #37
    Did It First - #51

    Doechii:
    What It Is - #29
    Balloon - #56
    DENIAL IS A RIVER - #21
    NISSAN ALTIMA - #73
    ExtraL - #75

    Ice’s hits were clearly way bigger

    Whoever is arguing this is beyond lost. Ice Spice had HITS. Doechii hasn’t rang off like that yet.

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    Mafia Boss

    Ice Spices were more reliant on collabs. Doechii's are also bigger outside the US. Extra is #18 on Global 200 for example.

    You also were not counting the two Anxiety songs which are taking off at the same time as a few of the others...

    Neither versions have charted on the Hot 100 yet, so we don’t know where they’ll peak

    Doechii has done collabs as well and they’ve not done great on the charts

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    Your Average Jet

    150k first week imo

    Do you know how big of an accomplishment 100k first week is? Just bc Drake and Kendrick and whoever else make it look easy, doesn’t mean it is. Doechii would do about 60k first week rn.

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    HUT did 100k streaming first week, Doechii wouldn’t get half of that.

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    TheFader

    Neither versions have charted on the Hot 100 yet, so we don’t know where they’ll peak

    Doechii has done collabs as well and they’ve not done great on the charts

    Sleepy verion will go top 50 and solo will go top 20 based on totc.

    This is their top songs on spotify right now.

    Ice (3.2 billion):
    Boy's a liar Pt. 2 - 945,053,04
    Barbie World - 527,029,298
    Princess Diana - 252,435,493
    Deli - 238,104,568
    In Ha Mood - 210,430,564
    Did It First - 194,890,901
    Munch (Feelin’ U) -147,663,998
    Think U The S*** - 111,574,214
    Karma - 102,635,509

    Doechii (1.8 billion):
    What It Is (Solo Version) - 368,394,947
    DENIAL IS A RIVER -190,533,017
    What It Is (kodak) - 123,006,284
    ANXIETY - 114,384,369
    NISSAN ALTIMA - 113,503,395
    Balloon - 98,641,643

    This not even counting Extra and Anxiety (solo). Doechi will surpass Ice soon.

  • Your Average Jet

    150k first week imo

    higher lol

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    Big Dog

    HUT did 100k streaming first week, Doechii wouldn’t get half of that.

    Lol you gonna be shocked. Doechi will 100% do 50k streaming units first week or her label fumbled hard.

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    Mafia Boss

    Sleepy verion will go top 50 and solo will go top 20 based on totc.

    This is their top songs on spotify right now.

    Ice (3.2 billion):
    Boy's a liar Pt. 2 - 945,053,04
    Barbie World - 527,029,298
    Princess Diana - 252,435,493
    Deli - 238,104,568
    In Ha Mood - 210,430,564
    Did It First - 194,890,901
    Munch (Feelin’ U) -147,663,998
    Think U The S*** - 111,574,214
    Karma - 102,635,509

    Doechii (1.8 billion):
    What It Is (Solo Version) - 368,394,947
    DENIAL IS A RIVER -190,533,017
    What It Is (kodak) - 123,006,284
    ANXIETY - 114,384,369
    NISSAN ALTIMA - 113,503,395
    Balloon - 98,641,643

    This not even counting Extra and Anxiety (solo). Doechi will surpass Ice soon.

    Maybe, but I’m talking about Doechii as of right now and comparing their first hot years

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    TheFader

    Maybe, but I’m talking about Doechii as of right now and comparing their first hot years

    Solo songs. Doechii kinda got her beat they will pass ice by end of year. Even if you dont count What It is cause its pop/rnb.

    Ice:
    (2023) Deli - 238,662,099
    (2023) In Ha Mood - 210,706,782
    (2022) Munch (Feelin’ U) -147,839,684
    (2024) Think U The S*** - 111,890,989

    Doechii:
    (2023) What It Is (Solo) - 368,730,698
    (2024) DENIAL IS A RIVER - 193,857,492
    (2024) NISSAN ALTIMA - 114,623,648
    (2025) Anxiety - 13,497,188

  • Big Dog

    Do you know how big of an accomplishment 100k first week is? Just bc Drake and Kendrick and whoever else make it look easy, doesn’t mean it is. Doechii would do about 60k first week rn.

    Yeah people think that a 100k milestone is easy to reach all because Drake nem make it look easy repeatedly.

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    she’s been selling 20k+ a week in month 5 and ppl think her ceiling is 60k?

  • Mafia Boss

    Lots of people did not like Ice Spice and thought she was a fad. Doechii is barely getting any actual hate aside from a few tweets.

    the fact that shes not rapping bout farting n s***ting was already a net positive

  • Mafia Boss

    Solo songs. Doechii kinda got her beat they will pass ice by end of year. Even if you dont count What It is cause its pop/rnb.

    Ice:
    (2023) Deli - 238,662,099
    (2023) In Ha Mood - 210,706,782
    (2022) Munch (Feelin’ U) -147,839,684
    (2024) Think U The S*** - 111,890,989

    Doechii:
    (2023) What It Is (Solo) - 368,730,698
    (2024) DENIAL IS A RIVER - 193,857,492
    (2024) NISSAN ALTIMA - 114,623,648
    (2025) Anxiety - 13,497,188

    Those Ice songs were everywhere in 2023.

    These Doechii songs are not.

    She’s having a moment but we can be honest too