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  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    They don’t. I just listened to Hot Pink in full the other day man, it’s not a rap album

    what makes it not a rap album?

  • May 21, 2022
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    iHype

    Why do y’all keep using Playboi as the go to excuse?

    Niggas was trashing his music and at this point he is doing some niche sub genre.

    No hes not. Hes a rapper. They even asked him in an interview thinking he was going to be on some pretentious "im bigger than hip hop" s*** and he said I am a hip hop artist

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    what makes it not a rap album?

    I’ve answered this three times

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    May 21, 2022
    CKL TML

    Shes 100% a rapper. Just not a traditional one

    Exactly. But that’s also why we fw her heavy. She’s fresh af

  • May 21, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    No hes not. Hes a rapper. They even asked him in an interview thinking he was going to be on some pretentious "im bigger than hip hop" s*** and he said I am a hip hop artist

    Take out WLR and his discography is by far more Hip-Hop rooted than Doja

  • May 21, 2022
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    iHype

    Take out WLR and his discography is by far more Hip-Hop rooted than Doja

    are you really trying to imply WLR isn't hip hop?

  • May 21, 2022
    SHAQUILLE

    Carti aint doing well in a cypher either but hes still a rapper

    STOP BRINGING UP RAPPERS IN THIS CONVO

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    are you really trying to imply WLR isn't hip hop?

    I don’t agree with that, but I get what that guy is saying

  • CKL TML 🌺
    May 21, 2022
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    Now post malone.. thats a white guy that used hiphop to get in but is def not a rapper

  • May 21, 2022
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    Doja cat came up doing vlad tv interviews

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    May 21, 2022
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    CKL TML

    Now post malone.. thats a white guy that used hiphop to get in but is def not a rapper

    Then Juice Wrld not a rapper either

  • May 21, 2022
    e t

    Then Juice Wrld not a rapper either

    He rapped as much as he sang though

  • May 21, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Doja cat came up doing vlad tv interviews

    Now class what type of platform is vlad tv?

  • CKL TML 🌺
    May 21, 2022
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    e t

    Then Juice Wrld not a rapper either

    Watch some juice freestyles lol. All post do is make rock music and sing over hiphop beats

  • May 21, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Doja cat came up doing vlad tv interviews

    complex.com/music/doja-cat-is-a-rapper/3

    "The industry is flooded with artists who sing and rap, but male artists aren’t having any trouble being considered rappers (sometimes to their dismay). On the flipside, Doja Cat is a prime example of genre-bending women who’re primarily being labeled singers."

  • May 21, 2022
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    SHAQUILLE

    Now class what type of platform is vlad tv?

    You don’t have to be a rapper to be on Vlad TV.

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    May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    You don’t have to be a rapper to be on Vlad TV.

    Vegas police lives on vlad couches

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    May 21, 2022
    CKL TML

    Watch some juice freestyles lol. All post do is make rock music and sing over hiphop beats

    Nah I’m saying both are rappers though. To be fair, I don’t really give af about Post slander so I’ll let it slide anyway

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    https://www.complex.com/music/doja-cat-is-a-rapper/3

    "The industry is flooded with artists who sing and rap, but male artists aren’t having any trouble being considered rappers (sometimes to their dismay). On the flipside, Doja Cat is a prime example of genre-bending women who’re primarily being labeled singers."

    This argument is stupid because people in here have given several examples of women who should be considered rappers.

    Meg, Saweetie, Latto, City Girls, Rico, Cardi B, etc.

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    it does help her case, i can personally pick out when it's any of her work off rip, because im actually familiar with her music if she doesn't have her own signature style or prod, where are the rip offs at?

    show me them

    i just told u her woman song is obviously not her sound (it's afro beat turned into pop music)

    that song that went viral on tiktok with the naked dancing (forgot the challenge name lol) was clearly a trapsoul beat,

    here someone made a similar beat to it (I searched doja cat type beat, clicked on this and was instantly reminded of that song "like yooouuuu whooaa")

    u think doja invented afro beats, trapsoul and 808s????

  • May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    You don’t have to be a rapper to be on Vlad TV.

    The lengths yall will go

    Vlad TV is 90% rappers and then 10% non music celebs that are hip hop adjacent like ex d*** dealers or Athletes or comedians

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    This argument is stupid because people in here have given several examples of women who should be considered rappers.

    Meg, Saweetie, Latto, City Girls, Rico, Cardi B, etc.

    they also sing though, but because the songs that they sing on don't chart, they aren't pop stars

  • May 21, 2022
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    You’ll also notice in plenty of discussions about the best women rappers right now, Doja’s name rarely comes up

  • May 21, 2022
    shaleirose

    But that’s not why she isn’t a rapper. She’s not a rapper because she makes pop music with rap elements

    Whole reason I brought up the pop stars who lean Hip Hop streaming more than Drake was to point something out lol. That the closer artists get to pop music, the more they sell (as long as the music is still good). Some artists go too far to pop and aren’t considered rap anymore.

    Drake is probably the best rapper ever at riding that line. He has some great pop songs and has great rap songs. It’s not super surprising that he is selling more like the pop stars than the rappers because of this.

    What’s really wild to me is that XXX is out here getting streams like the pop stars

    He’s got songs that are kinda poppy (Sad!), but for the most part he was a through and through rapper. Definitely less poppy than Doja/Post/Drake. I think he would have been able to ride that line similarly to Drake.

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    You’ll also notice in plenty of discussions about the best women rappers right now, Doja’s name rarely comes up

    because people don't like doja around here whether it's racial chatroom nonsense or a dislike for her personality

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