Sep 7, 2025·edited·1 replyWhenever something stops favoring Drake, @thegreatdivine immediately starts to render it as useless. When Kendrick Lamar was dominating the charts & Spotify in the US from 2024-2025, she LOVED to say it was all bots and radio. The moment Drake stopped scoring smash hits on the Hot 100, she started pushing the narrative that Spotify success & Hot 100 longterm success was irrelevant.
The real anger she feels is because while Drake has scored 3 #1 hits from his last 2 solo albums, Kendrick has scored one #1 hit from his last album that lasted longer at #1 than all three of Drake’s combined.
She also hates the Hot 100 because Drake isn't nearly as dominant on that chart lately compared to Kendrick Lamar.
Sep 7, 2025·1 replyDrake hasn’t had a an actual hit since rich flex
Sep 7, 2025·2 repliesthegreatdivineWhenever something stops favoring the Weeknd, @fader immediately starts to render it as useless. When the Weeknd was dominating the charts in the US from 2020-2022, he LOVED to flaunt US stats and numbers. The moment the Weeknd stopped scoring smash hits on the Hot 100, he started pushing the narrative that commercial success in the US was irrelevant.
The real anger he feels is because while Drake has scored 3 #1 hits from last 2 solo albums, the Weeknd has scored 0 #1 hits from his last 2 solo albums.
He also hates Apple Music because the Weeknd isn't nearly as dominant on that platform compared to Drake.
Because The Weeknd is a pop star like an Ariana Grande and Sabrina Carpenter compared to a Drake or Taylor . His numbers depend more on the radio, algorithm and botting. Taylor and Drake albums chart way better on Apple Music than The Weeknd because their algorithm isn’t as easy to game as Spotify .
Sep 7, 2025·1 replyStill not updated
This week should be interesting
- Sep 7, 2025thegreatdivine
Whenever something stops favoring the Weeknd, @fader immediately starts to render it as useless. When the Weeknd was dominating the charts in the US from 2020-2022, he LOVED to flaunt US stats and numbers. The moment the Weeknd stopped scoring smash hits on the Hot 100, he started pushing the narrative that commercial success in the US was irrelevant.
The real anger he feels is because while Drake has scored 3 #1 hits from last 2 solo albums, the Weeknd has scored 0 #1 hits from his last 2 solo albums.
He also hates Apple Music because the Weeknd isn't nearly as dominant on that platform compared to Drake.
Cook that fraud 😂😂😂 he’s been doing that for too long now
Sep 7, 2025·2 repliesWhy is this thread even active after we heard you can just buy atleast 50k worth of streams
- Sep 7, 2025rather late
Why is this thread even active after we heard you can just buy atleast 50k worth of streams
We already knew they could do that. This is not new information. Only ignorant or stupid people were denying it
Sep 7, 2025MidzyStill not updated
This week should be interesting
https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1964066553650933778KPop really ruins streaming so much
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyBlue Man
Because The Weeknd is a pop star like an Ariana Grande and Sabrina Carpenter compared to a Drake or Taylor . His numbers depend more on the radio, algorithm and botting. Taylor and Drake albums chart way better on Apple Music than The Weeknd because their algorithm isn’t as easy to game as Spotify .
It's actually easier to fake streams on AM
- Sep 7, 2025·2 repliesBlue Man
Because The Weeknd is a pop star like an Ariana Grande and Sabrina Carpenter compared to a Drake or Taylor . His numbers depend more on the radio, algorithm and botting. Taylor and Drake albums chart way better on Apple Music than The Weeknd because their algorithm isn’t as easy to game as Spotify .
Even Morgan Wallen dominates Apple Music now. The Weeknd only has one major hit on Apple Music and that's what upsets Fader Man.
I get not liking that your fave doesn't score hits on the US charts anymore but dismissing the entirety of the charts simply because of that is silly.
For all my gripes about radio and how it doesn't favor Drake on the charts, I'll never come out to say the Hot 100 chart in its entirely is useless or that commercial success in the US doesn't matter anymore. That's absolutely ridiculous.
Sep 7, 2025TheFaderWhenever something stops favoring Drake, @thegreatdivine immediately starts to render it as useless. When Kendrick Lamar was dominating the charts & Spotify in the US from 2024-2025, she LOVED to say it was all bots and radio. The moment Drake stopped scoring smash hits on the Hot 100, she started pushing the narrative that Spotify success & Hot 100 longterm success was irrelevant.
The real anger she feels is because while Drake has scored 3 #1 hits from his last 2 solo albums, Kendrick has scored one #1 hit from his last album that lasted longer at #1 than all three of Drake’s combined.
She also hates the Hot 100 because Drake isn't nearly as dominant on that chart lately compared to Kendrick Lamar.
Sep 7, 2025·1 replymovIt's actually easier to fake streams on AM
It doesn't even have a free tier, it's definitely easier on Spotify lol.
There's even been cases of people getting random artists on their Spotify wrapped which they never listened to, like that one Lil Durk album.
Sep 7, 2025kasich2028Drake hasn’t had a an actual hit since rich flex
lie.
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyrather late
Why is this thread even active after we heard you can just buy atleast 50k worth of streams
Cause fake streams dont count toward Billboard. Thug said he tried for his album and clearly it didnt work cause it didnt go #1 lol
- Sep 7, 2025SpiderMan
It doesn't even have a free tier, it's definitely easier on Spotify lol.
There's even been cases of people getting random artists on their Spotify wrapped which they never listened to, like that one Lil Durk album.Nah it‘s definitely easier because AM isn‘t showing their numbers (streams). This is nothing new too lol
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replythegreatdivine
Even Morgan Wallen dominates Apple Music now. The Weeknd only has one major hit on Apple Music and that's what upsets Fader Man.
I get not liking that your fave doesn't score hits on the US charts anymore but dismissing the entirety of the charts simply because of that is silly.
For all my gripes about radio and how it doesn't favor Drake on the charts, I'll never come out to say the Hot 100 chart in its entirely is useless or that commercial success in the US doesn't matter anymore. That's absolutely ridiculous.
Easiest way to know who’s gaming the algorithm is when an artist debuts top 10 on Spotify but is #40 Apple Music. Look at how well Drake, Taylor, Morgan Wallen perform well on both platforms compared to a Kendrick or Weeknd.
Only thing with the Hot 100 is the radio addition disproportionately hurts Hip Hop artist and favors payola. The Billboard 200 has a lot of Hip Hop albums while the 100 has very few hip hop songs. I’m sure it’s intended
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyBlue Man
Easiest way to know who’s gaming the algorithm is when an artist debuts top 10 on Spotify but is #40 Apple Music. Look at how well Drake, Taylor, Morgan Wallen perform well on both platforms compared to a Kendrick or Weeknd.
Only thing with the Hot 100 is the radio addition disproportionately hurts Hip Hop artist and favors payola. The Billboard 200 has a lot of Hip Hop albums while the 100 has very few hip hop songs. I’m sure it’s intended
Because genres perform differently on different platforms. Pop does better on spotify this isnt some new thing.
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
Cause fake streams dont count toward Billboard. Thug said he tried for his album and clearly it didnt work cause it didnt go #1 lol
I actually think it does for first week. They don’t retroactively take away your #1 once the fake streams are caught
- Sep 7, 2025Blue Man
I actually think it does for first week. They don’t retroactively take away your #1 once the fake streams are caught
fake streams are filtered before charts are released. thats why there are sometimes delays with the charts.
thats also why some albums could be projected to one amount then final number is way less.
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
Because genres perform differently on different platforms. Pop does better on spotify this isnt some new thing.
Are you saying Kendrick and Weeknd are more pop than Taylor, Morgan and Drake?
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyBlue Man
Are you saying Kendrick and Weeknd are more pop than Taylor, Morgan and Drake?
there are more artists then just those 5 people. im speaking on the genres as a whole. also morgan is country music which is apple music heavy. And yes weekend makes pop music.
- Sep 7, 2025·2 replies
Carti had fake streams and spotify caught it before billboard☠️ 42% filter rate than final billboard total was only like 20 million 😭
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyMafia Boss
there are more artists then just those 5 people. im speaking on the genres as a whole. also morgan is country music which is apple music heavy. And yes weekend makes pop music.
What you said didn’t make sense tho since I was pointing out how Drake, Taylor, and Morgan perform well on both platforms compared to Kendrick and Weeknd.
Also, Yes, the artists that depend on the algorithm pushing them do better on Spotify. Renaming “algorithm pushed” to “pop” isn’t as clever as you think
- Sep 7, 2025Mafia Boss
Carti had fake streams and spotify caught it before billboard☠️ 42% filter rate than final billboard total was only like 20 million 😭
https://twitter.com/spotify_data/status/1837509780774310082https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1837929783763575161This doesn’t mean they alway catch it early or even that they’ll catch all the fake streams. The All Redd one was just really blatant
- Sep 7, 2025·1 replyBlue Man
What you said didn’t make sense tho since I was pointing out how Drake, Taylor, and Morgan perform well on both platforms compared to Kendrick and Weeknd.
Also, Yes, the artists that depend on the algorithm pushing them do better on Spotify. Renaming “algorithm pushed” to “pop” isn’t as clever as you think
do you really think kendrick doesnt do well on both?