199.6k

Yeah bro im sure you have a long historical marketing track record and have been involved woth multiple album rollouts with artists that have Cardis budget to bless us with this expert opinion comparing art to sports thanks

Once again youre saying an artist should not market their music??? 😭😭😭

I’m not comparing art to sports, I’m comparing numbers to numbers. You think Atlantic gives a f*** about the artistic merit of a Cardi B album? F*** no, they’re tryna sell products and make money. That s*** bricked

200k first week is FAR from a brick my guy

You’re looking at s*** in a vacuum. Everything requires context.

If this new Taylor Swift album sells 200K first week, is that a success or is that a brick?

So, I guess the Drake vs. Kendrick beef didn't really affect anything after all.

Youre making a comparison to the white girl jesus and tryna educate people on a vacuum

Not at all just saying some have to try hard and real stars don’t :shrug: I seen drake do it, I seen Nicki do it,I seen beyonce do it, I seen Taylor do it that whole marketing look like desperation because all in all she look stupid because the plan was to outsell Nicki that’s why she dropped her singles a week after Nicki’s, that’s why she waited for Nicki to finally drop so she could drop but didn’t notice niggas didn’t f*** with her like that because she’s only one album in Nicki had 4 albums she could fall back on before dropping pf2 that was a chess move and cardi took the bait should’ve been dropped her sophomore five years ago and said f*** Nicki lmao

Okay. If Kendrick releases a new album tomorrow and it sells 100K first week, is that a success or a flop?

Tit For Tat

I really like it but I didnt expect it to do those kind of numbers

It didnt actually labels are closing down their marketing for hip hop and investing MUCH less. Theres been less rap numbers this year than the year before less rap acts at Coachella as well

Cardi had all the marketing in the world behind her that’s why we’re calling this s*** a flop

The numbers itself were decent especially for female rap. She mainly getting clownerd because she did lots of marketing including a court trial that was solely for marketing (imo) she even had court album versions with meme covers of her.

I remember when Nicki dropped that one single produced by atl Jacob and it underperformed, cardi dropped that s*** with Megan a few days later on some funny s*** and that s*** flopped lmao

F*** the WHAT IFS nigga lets talk REALITY
Tyler - 197
Drake & PND 246
Future and Metro 250k

Like what are we even talking about shes in the same bracket as her peers

Too much Nicki d***riding for me to have an actual convo with you.

You think her Marketing her s*** is corny her Bardi gang fans ate that s*** up

And all three of those projects didn’t utilize anywhere near the same amount of marketing & sales tactics that Cardi did.

Tyler - midweek release, he sold the same amount as Cardi with three less tracking days
Drake & PND - only CD physicals available first week, mostly streaming units (219K)
Future & Metro - all streaming units, no physicals available

CONTEXT.

And none of these niggas had to go on 90s inspired promo out of desperation lmao and they need to investigate that extra 50k s*** really sold 150k

You’re d***riding cardi itt you’re delusional son the whole thread telling you that is an L

Men lie, women lie, numbers lie too if you reference them without context

tbh i predicted 90k streaming units and she did 110k, so she certainly exceeded my expectations on that front. that alone would be respectable if she hadn't turned it into a competition and talked a bunch of s***.

ironically, she could have kept her mouth closed and done 140k-160k or whatever and i think it'd go over better for her than pulling taylor swift level tactics and only barely touching 200k.

Are you seriously trying to argue that pure sales are a bad thing? 🤔 88K physical sales in 2025 is actually very impressive.

Now show me where I said physical sales were a bad thing

I’m literally the #1 advocate for physical sales in this thread

Especially when you have multiple meet and greets forcing people to buy them just to get a picture