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  • Oct 8, 2025
    kasich2028

    Well guess what? When MJ died, he moved 35 million albums in 12 months afterwards.

    Taylor sold 48 million albums in 2023. So MJ really wont win against TS with these hypothetical scenarios. There is no bigger boosts than the postmortem sales hike.

    Huh

  • Oct 8, 2025
    kasich2028

    Well guess what? When MJ died, he moved 35 million albums in 12 months afterwards.

    Taylor sold 48 million albums in 2023. So MJ really wont win against TS with these hypothetical scenarios. There is no bigger boosts than the postmortem sales hike.

    silenced EVERYONE. good job

  • Oct 8, 2025
    thegreatdivine

    And that's really what matters here. 1989 was a more impactful album than this. The numbers are there but despite all the promo she's been doing, as well as the numbers the album is putting up, it's non-existent in the real world.

    I know that there are other external factors contributing to that but damn. Imagine doing 4M units in a week and it only being notable online lmao.

    how can u compare the impact of a 11 year old album to a 1 week old album?

    1989 wasn't all that well received in its first few months. yes Blank Space and SIO were smashing, but so are Ophelia and Opalite

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    4M the craziest s*** i ever seen in music

  • mr get dough

    4M the craziest s*** i ever seen in music

    2 prime Eminems

  • Oct 9, 2025
    TheFader

    Russ means well but he don’t realize this doesn’t apply to in-person physical purchases and there would be absolutely no feasible way to track it if it was

    Also I’m 100% positive Taylor fans are aware of this rule and have found ways to work around it

    https://twitter.com/russdiemon/status/1975998852550291811

    4 per version... and that doesnt count them buying the whole shelf in store ☠️

  • so good at selling product

  • Oct 9, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    Comparing a posthumous bump to a prime year is stupid

    also i gurantee MJ had more unique purchases

  • Man 4M that's insane

  • Oct 9, 2025

    taylor really bankrupting some of her middle america fans

  • Oct 9, 2025
    relapsed bisexual

    when u look in the real world the alleged moment taylor is having simply does not exist

    if this isnt enough proof sales are meaningless idk what is

    idk if it's internet or what but I feel like taylor is confined to her fanbase like nobody outside of her bubble is checking her stuff im not mad at her sales it's just fascinating

  • Oct 9, 2025
    Nute

    3.5M

    Now it’s 4?

  • Oct 9, 2025

    tay tay <3

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    🥲

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    halleys comet
    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1976172558014873922

    🥲

    b b but it's only the variants that give her this success

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  • Oct 9, 2025
    Botney

    b b but it's only the variants that give her this success

    500K streaming

    4M total units sold

    30+ variants

    I wonder what’s causing that overall total to be so much higher than the streaming total

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    Interesting that “impact” started to matter when it’s a Taylor Swift album

    By the standards of this thread the album should be an instant classic

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    Debut Chart Points:

    What, Did I Miss? - 180
    Which One - 115
    Dog House - 56
    Nokia - 173
    Die Trying - 141

    = 665

    The Fate of Ophelia - 740+

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    Ghetto Lenny

    4M is wild to see in the title.

    Feel like that would be the equivalent of a movie having a billion dollar opening weekend.

  • Oct 9, 2025
    John Mauve

  • Oct 9, 2025
    deleteduser579

    Interesting that “impact” started to matter when it’s a Taylor Swift album

    By the standards of this thread the album should be an instant classic

    You just created a hyper specific opinion and attributed it to a whole sales thread that you’re also a part of. You didn’t cook here

  • Oct 9, 2025
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    So like did every Taylor fan buy all 15 different versions or something?

    The numbers are so crazy that I genuinely don’t believe it

  • Midzy

    Debut Chart Points:

    What, Did I Miss? - 180
    Which One - 115
    Dog House - 56
    Nokia - 173
    Die Trying - 141

    = 665

    The Fate of Ophelia - 740+

    If he went full Bundle Scott he would get something going

  • Oct 9, 2025

    He has multiple classic records known on a mainstream level and this was his first entry on the chart.

    Just more proof that this s*** does not matter like that.

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