Okay? A legacy act from when rap was peaking is not a good example?
It's much easier, like it has always been, for a white person to be marketed to the masses , an anomaly here and there doesn't change that
Wayne literally hit his highest peak right in the middle of the Great Recession when niggas could barely afford anything and he helped pull rap out of a slump in a time where when CD sales declined sharply compared to the early 2000's.
If anything, Wayne defied the odds and saved hip hop commercially along with Kanye.
Rap wasn't really peaking like that in the late 00's.
Wayne literally hit his highest peak right in the middle of the Great Recession when niggas could barely afford anything and he helped pull rap out of a slump in a time where when CD sales declined sharply compared to the early 2000's.
If anything, Wayne defied the odds and saved hip hop commercially along with Kanye.
Rap wasn't really peaking like that in the late 00's.
Wayne was developed during raps peak and solidified himself during the commercial peak of rap, that’s also just semantics
You really bout to argue with me that a street rapper and Sabrina carpenter shouldn’t be compared?
Wayne was developed during raps peak and solidified himself during the commercial peak of rap, that’s also just semantics
You really bout to argue with me that a street rapper and Sabrina carpenter shouldn’t be compared?
Bro...this is revisionist history.
Wayne was helping Cash Money stay afloat when the label was in disarray and even Juvie was starting to lose hype.
Wayne saved CM from being a dying label and going the way of No Limit.
Saying that he solidified himself during the "commercial peak" of rap isn't true at all. Wayne built himself up and his biggest album came out when rap CD sales were declining and when we were in a Great Recession.
I'm not saying anything about Youngboy and Sabrina. I'm just correcting your claims about Wayne.
Bro...this is revisionist history.
Wayne was helping Cash Money stay afloat when the label was in disarray and even Juvie was starting to lose hype.
Wayne saved CM from being a dying label and going the way of No Limit.
Saying that he solidified himself during the "commercial peak" of rap isn't true at all. Wayne built himself up and his biggest album came out when rap CD sales were declining and when we were in a Great Recession.
I'm not saying anything about Youngboy and Sabrina. I'm just correcting your claims about Wayne.
You’re focused on the semantics and wasting my time
The point is that a white woman and street rapper shouldn’t be compared, idk if it’s ADHD medication or what, but I’m not debating you
Rap was at one of its peaks during Wayne’s run, argue with chat gpt nigga
You’re focused on the semantics and wasting my time
The point is that a white woman and street rapper shouldn’t be compared, idk if it’s ADHD medication or what, but I’m not debating you
Rap was at one of its peaks during Wayne’s run, argue with chat gpt nigga
https://www.mlive.com/mediumfidelity/2008/01/_2007_yearend_music_sales.html
Congrats you experience music with a calculator
We weren’t checking the charts in 2007
Idk how old you were but we were experiencing a peak in rap music you will never be able to quantify
The article even says peaks were hit with digital music so thanks for proving my point
You think a damn teenager is studying the charts at the time or burning CDs everyday in 2007?
The mixtape era was 100% a peak and contributed to Wayne’s success, give a damn what the charts say
You think a damn teenager is studying the charts at the time or burning CDs everyday in 2007?
The mixtape era was 100% a peak and contributed to Wayne’s success, give a damn what the charts say
Exactly
Internet was still a whole new world in 2007 lmao nobody cared
How much niggas d***ride the charts I foresee some AI artist stans on this b**** in the future
It will start out as a troll and gimmick but eventually become a real thing
How much niggas d***ride the charts I foresee some AI artist stans on this b**** in the future
It will start out as a troll and gimmick but eventually become a real thing
It's already a real thing since this s*** debuts on the charts and billboard does absolutely nothing against it
It's already a real thing since this s*** debuts on the charts and billboard does absolutely nothing against it
I mean stans for AI artists on ktt and this thread specifically, for sure tho it’s wild people are actually listening to the s***
BULLY so soon tho
It's already a real thing since this s*** debuts on the charts and billboard does absolutely nothing against it
It starts with the radio stations playing that bullshit. Genuinely what the f*** are they playing that for?
Congrats you experience music with a calculator
We weren’t checking the charts in 2007
Idk how old you were but we were experiencing a peak in rap music you will never be able to quantify
I was literally a Wayne fan back then lol.
The reality is that hip hop in 06-09 didn't have the same commercial peak that the early 2000's had.
I'm not talking about the music scene. I'm just saying that hip hop factually wasn't in its "commercial peak" back then like you claimed.
You're bringing up mixtapes but that has nothing to do with what YOU said. You brought up commercialization. Not me.
I said Wayne was able to thrive in spite of hip hop going through a sales slump in the late 2000's.
I was literally a Wayne fan back then lol.
The reality is that hip hop in 06-09 didn't have the same commercial peak that the early 2000's had.
I'm not talking about the music scene. I'm just saying that hip hop factually wasn't in its "commercial peak" back then like you claimed.
You're bringing up mixtapes but that has nothing to do with what YOU said. You brought up commercialization. Not me.
I said Wayne was able to thrive in spite of hip hop going through a sales slump in the late 2000's.
Who cares if it wasn’t the same peak, it was still A peak
Peaks and valleys happen in all facets of life but aren’t always identical
I said Wayne came up during a peak, who cares if it wasn’t the biggest in hiphop history, it was definitely huge compared to the s*** we are going through now so why are you so caught up in the semantics it’s weird
The argument wasn’t even about peaks it was about black artists and pop girls not being comparable
Niggas get caught up in semantics
It starts with the radio stations playing that bullshit. Genuinely what the f*** are they playing that for?
them specifically breaking this on urban ac radio/using an r&b artist is deliberate
People count her as a “new star” for pop
Do you count Doechii as new? I think she is kinda similar in that regard.
This is proof of payola imo.
Do you count Doechii as new? I think she is kinda similar in that regard.
As far as i know doechiis first stuff was like 2019/2020.
I consider all three of Doechii, Sabrina, Yb to be new stars. Idk if I’d call Doechii a star but that’s a different convo. New artist I guess