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  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    No, I'd also call that out for the clear chart manipulation tactic that it is. If a multimillionaire really wants to help people, they can do it without also making a condition that ensures they also benefit from the so-called "help."

    It's all shady. Rocky could have easily just sold the vinyls on his site without doing this s*** on the side.

    And it would be dumb to hate on that, anything that’s not destructive and is helping people with the cost of living is an awesome thing

    Who cares if the number next to his sales is higher because of it? Only someone with a negative narrative they can want to push would try to shape this into a bad thing

  • Jan 18
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    DUMMIE
    !https://youtu.be/xpVfcZ0ZcFM

    Guess this video is chart manipulation now

    Guess every time Drake gives out money at his concerts is manipulation now right?

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    And it would be dumb to hate on that, anything that’s not destructive and is helping people with the cost of living is an awesome thing

    Who cares if the number next to his sales is higher because of it? Only someone with a negative narrative they can want to push would try to shape this into a bad thing

    I never said giving to people who needed it was a bad thing. I said giving to people who need it only when you can benefit from it in some way is bad and shady. Rocky could have offered this "help" years ago or anytime else without attaching a condition that helped him boost his album sales. Him tying his album to whatever "help" he offered is inherently self-serving.

    If you can't see that, that's fine. I'm just calling it out for what it is.

    I had this same argument with someone on here who tried to act like Travis selling his Utopia vinyls for $5 (a massive loss to him and his label because it costs a lot more just to produce those vinyls) to boost his chart position was somehow being done "for the fans" (the same fans who mostly didn't even end up getting said album delivered to their locations lol).

    We can call s*** out for what it is without being disingenuous is what I'm saying but hey.

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    Guess this video is chart manipulation now

    Guess every time Drake gives out money at his concerts is manipulation now right?

    He put so much work into that philanthropic PR that he has people buying front seats like they’re lottery tickets He doesn’t give af about these people and they don’t care about him they know it has to be a catchy hook on the sign bc he’ll only do it if it’s a potential viral moment

  • DUMMIE
    !https://youtu.be/xpVfcZ0ZcFM

    How is this remotely the same thing?

    God's Plan had been #1 for 4 weeks before this video even dropped and Drake giving out that money didn't help boost his chart position in any way.

    He's known for helping people out financially, no strings attached. Him making a music video out of something he has always done as a way to implore people to be kind to others isn't the same as what Rocky is doing lmao.

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    Guess this video is chart manipulation now

    Guess every time Drake gives out money at his concerts is manipulation now right?

    You're desperately trying to be stupid to defend Rocky so I'll come down to your level. No, Drake paying for people's cancer treatments and paying off people's student debts at concerts isn't chart manipulation. I hope that helps.

  • DUMMIE

    He put so much work into that philanthropic PR that he has people buying front seats like they’re lottery tickets He doesn’t give af about these people and they don’t care about him they know it has to be a catchy hook on the sign bc he’ll only do it if it’s a potential viral moment

    This post is embarrassing.

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    I never said giving to people who needed it was a bad thing. I said giving to people who need it only when you can benefit from it in some way is bad and shady. Rocky could have offered this "help" years ago or anytime else without attaching a condition that helped him boost his album sales. Him tying his album to whatever "help" he offered is inherently self-serving.

    If you can't see that, that's fine. I'm just calling it out for what it is.

    I had this same argument with someone on here who tried to act like Travis selling his Utopia vinyls for $5 (a massive loss to him and his label because it costs a lot more just to produce those vinyls) to boost his chart position was somehow being done "for the fans" (the same fans who mostly didn't even end up getting said album delivered to their locations lol).

    We can call s*** out for what it is without being disingenuous is what I'm saying but hey.

    How do you know Rocky isn’t helping any beside this instance? Can’t he do both? Because it’s not as publicized it’s not happening?

    The Travis Scott $5 vinyls are not comparable because he wasn’t paying peoples rent, but if people went to discount their physical media who gives a s***

    People mad at Frank for charging $60, mad at Travis for charging $5 mad at Rocky for giving back

    Did you complain when Drake was doing “Christmas giveaways” with a gambling companies money that required you to watch him play slots for hours? You literally couldn’t win if you weren’t watching, now that’s disgusting, but hey I hope it helped more people than it did inspire them to gamble.

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    You're desperately trying to be stupid to defend Rocky so I'll come down to your level. No, Drake paying for people's cancer treatments and paying off people's student debts at concerts isn't chart manipulation. I hope that helps.

    I don’t give a s*** about Rocky, I volunteer at shelters regularly, anything that’s helping those people is a win to me, because not enough people are, idc if it involves his fans ordering vinyls

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    You're desperately trying to be stupid to defend Rocky so I'll come down to your level. No, Drake paying for people's cancer treatments and paying off people's student debts at concerts isn't chart manipulation. I hope that helps.

    “If I buy this concert ticket Drake might give me money”

    That’s way more manipulative than paying the rent at the building you grew up in from a vinyl fundraiser, there’s no false hope for people that don’t live in Rocky’s building, they know they aren’t getting their rent paid

  • Good s*** Rocky, hope more artists follow suit

  • Jan 18
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    Plight2

    "numbers dont matter" crowd has been really active in the charts thread

    Still don’t matter but I’ll def be here next few weeks for drake fan shambles

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    “If I buy this concert ticket Drake might give me money”

    That’s way more manipulative than paying the rent at the building you grew up in from a vinyl fundraiser, there’s no false hope for people that don’t live in Rocky’s building, they know they aren’t getting their rent paid

    You really are stupid lmao.

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    I don’t give a s*** about Rocky, I volunteer at shelters regularly, anything that’s helping those people is a win to me, because not enough people are, idc if it involves his fans ordering vinyls

    Oh, you clearly give a s***. Don't try to pass it off like you don't now lmao.

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    You really are stupid lmao.

    99.99 percent of the people in that crowd holding a sign won’t get s***

    99.99 percent of people in the stake stream chat won’t win a damn thing

    But a lot of them are there just in case they do, that’s manipulation

    Nobody other then the building Rocky grew up in is getting their rent paid, there’s nobody else buying his vinyl hoping they get their rent paid, if you genuinely don’t see the difference, I feel bad for you

    You could replace Rocky with literally anyone else and I would give them kudos for this

  • Jan 18

    Thought there might be some news about DBD first week sales.

    Nope, just tgd calling everyone who disagrees with her stupid.

  • Jan 18
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    Music Listener

    How do you know Rocky isn’t helping any beside this instance? Can’t he do both? Because it’s not as publicized it’s not happening?

    The Travis Scott $5 vinyls are not comparable because he wasn’t paying peoples rent, but if people went to discount their physical media who gives a s***

    People mad at Frank for charging $60, mad at Travis for charging $5 mad at Rocky for giving back

    Did you complain when Drake was doing “Christmas giveaways” with a gambling companies money that required you to watch him play slots for hours? You literally couldn’t win if you weren’t watching, now that’s disgusting, but hey I hope it helped more people than it did inspire them to gamble.

    My whole point was Drake has never tied any of his giveaways or efforts to help people to boosting his chart position.

    Drake's tours sell out weeks before they start and he makes his money. He picks maybe 3 or 4 people per show to help out and it isn't always with money.

    If you think him helping out 3 people per show counts as some sort of manipulation that benefits him then you're next level dumb but then again, you're the one reaching to the high heavens to defend against Rocky's actions as also being self-serving lol.

  • Music Listener

    99.99 percent of the people in that crowd holding a sign won’t get s***

    99.99 percent of people in the stake stream chat won’t win a damn thing

    But a lot of them are there just in case they do, that’s manipulation

    Nobody other then the building Rocky grew up in is getting their rent paid, there’s nobody else buying his vinyl hoping they get their rent paid, if you genuinely don’t see the difference, I feel bad for you

    You could replace Rocky with literally anyone else and I would give them kudos for this

    My point still stands: tying your efforts to help people to a system that benefits your chart placement in any way is the very definition of chart manipulation. You're the one in here trying to argue outside of that when that's always been my main point lol.

  • Jan 18
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    DUMMIE

    Still don’t matter but I’ll def be here next few weeks for drake fan shambles

    Waiting for when thegreatdivine has to put “A$AP Rocky 200k” in title

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    My whole point was Drake has never tied any of his giveaways or efforts to help people to boosting his chart position.

    Drake's tours sell out weeks before they start and he makes his money. He picks maybe 3 or 4 people per show to help out and it isn't always with money.

    If you think him helping out 3 people per show counts as some sort of manipulation that benefits him then you're next level dumb but then again, you're the one reaching to the high heavens to defend against Rocky's actions as also being self-serving lol.

    I’m defending peoples rent getting paid, and you dislike it because the number next to Rocky’s name will be bigger.

    if nobody showed up to drakes show or his stake stream, nobody wins money, If nobody bought the Rocky vinyl, his buildings rent still get paid, and if you can’t be happy for those families, I feel bad for you

  • DUMMIE

    Waiting for when thegreatdivine has to put “A$AP Rocky 200k” in title

    I root for every rap album to be successful, I just think resorting to unscrupulous tactics to get there is unwise because it never lasts and it doesn't ensure long-term success, only the short-term illusion of it.

  • Music Listener

    I’m defending peoples rent getting paid, and you dislike it because the number next to Rocky’s name will be bigger.

    if nobody showed up to drakes show or his stake stream, nobody wins money, If nobody bought the Rocky vinyl, his buildings rent still get paid, and if you can’t be happy for those families, I feel bad for you

    Again, when did I ever say I was unhappy people's rent got paid? All I said was that if Rocky really meant to help those people, he could have done so without attaching a condition that also benefitted his album sales. Why? Because that's the literal definition of chart manipulation.

    He did something good but it's also self-serving. I believe I said that. The fact that you can't even admit that tells me all I need to know lol.

  • thegreatdivine

    Nasty work.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2012971657598509240

    You’re such an idiot

    The album was not given away for free to anyone, credit on the Bilt app is essentially store credit at any other retailer

  • Jan 18
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    thegreatdivine

    Nasty work.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/2012971657598509240

    Rocky been a clown

    Weirdo behavior

  • NJTransit2000

    Rocky been a clown

    Weirdo behavior

    How do y’all just believe everything you see on Twitter lmao

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