Jun 14, 2022·1 reply
Hi Roller@op change thread title to US charts so we dont have this cope nonsense from abel stans
You know this isn't an American site?
- Jun 14, 2022·1 replyragedsycokiller
You know this isn't an American site?
where u going with this
- Jun 14, 2022·1 replyHi Roller
where u going with this
I want to talk about numbers outside the US as well
- Jun 14, 2022ragedsycokiller
I want to talk about numbers outside the US as well
talk to ppl who care about it. its derailing the thread
Jun 14, 2022thegreatdivineStupid post by a stupid person. It's to be expected.
Ableism
Jun 14, 20226geWlol tbh i see those two names together and i just see khalid trying to recreate his one hit with marshmello from 5 years ago
!https://youtu.be/tk36ovCMsU8I like the new one more tbh
Jun 14, 2022·1 replyMaccaveli101I tell you what, show me a full list of the charts they don’t cover.
Because that list was summary of some of them, not all.
Chart Methodologies
"The Album Chart based on sales and streaming data from the USA (Billboard Top 200), Japan (Oricon Album Chart), United Kingdom (Official Charts Company Top 100), France (SNEP Top Albums), Canada (Billboard Canadian Albums), Australia (ARIA Album Top 50), South Korea (Hanteo), and Netherlands (Mega Album Top 100). All above with sales stats."
These are the ones they actually have sales stats for.
"Furthermore the official charts from Germany (GfK Album Chart), Italy (FIMI Album Chart), Spain (Promusicae Top 100 Álbumes), Brazil (PMB), Mexico (Amprofon Top 100), Switzerland (Album Top 100), Belgium (Ultratop 200 Albums), Sweden (Sverige Topplistan, Veckans Albumlista), Austria (ORF Longplaycharts), Norway (VG Lista Topp 40 Album), Denmark (Hitlisterne Album Top 40), Finland (Suomen Virallinen, Albumit), Ireland (IRMA Top 100 Artist Albums), New Zealand (NZ Music Charts, Albums), Poland (OLIS, Top 50), Portugal (AFP Top Albums), Hungary (Mahasz Top 40 Albums), Czech Republic (IFPI CR, Top 100 Prodejní), Greece (IFPI Greece, Top 75 Albums Sales), Slovakia, South Africa, Argentina, Chile, and Colombia."
These are the ones they only have chart order for.
"The charts from countries without sales stats are weighted to the size of its markets according to the latest IFPI-statistics (exception: albums with huge sales in these countries are weighted higher)."
Basically they're saying they use the actual numbers and the ratios between albums from the countries in group #1 to fill in the sales stats blanks for #2.
"Albums which placed in most or all of our monitoring countries, get additional sales for countries, which haven't an official charts like Russia, China, India, Turkey etc."
And then this says that they apparently literally just take the data from that process and give the albums that were most popular in those "monitoring countries" and give the albums "additional sales" for the rest of the countries in the world that have no official charts.
So no they can't actually track sales in every single county. Just the countries that are basically part of the American sphere of influence and so which are basically extensions of the American music market (hence why almost of these artists are North American, even the Spanish-speaking artists like Bad Bunny, and the ones who aren't from North America are artists like Harry Styles or BTS who are also popular in the American market)
This is why the site itself is run by a guy named Fred Chuchel from Dresden, Germany who has spent the last 23 years writing about how much mostly-American artists sell in other countries whose charts are filled with Americans, and not run by a guy from San Bernardino, California who writes about German-language popstars all day
Sorry bro but there is no "global music market" that isn't just an extension of the American-centric music industry
- Jun 14, 2022·1 reply
CLB already has more songs top 100 (4) on Apple Music than Mr. Morale (3)
Jun 14, 2022·1 replyMaccaveli101???
Every major artist pushing their s*** and touring in Asia now.
Korea one of Weeknd’s biggest markets.
!https://youtu.be/pfHqC551t3sBro’s in sold out stadiums in Korea while Gunna was struggling to sell out nightclubs in America. Make it make sense.
Why you talking like Gunna can perform rn?
Jun 14, 2022·1 reply
SCOUSERWhy wouldn't we talk bout global sales on a global forum ? That's what I want to know fam.
And I know for sure on Drake and Kanye albums the stans were both posting global numbers as well as US
The only time I saw global sales posted was when pages were mistakenly posting that Kanye did 307K in 4.5 days but 520K in his first full 7 days. Which was untrue. One was US sales and one was supposedly Worldwide sales.
I've followed sales for more than a decade and it's always been about Billboard Top 200 / HitsDailyDouble numbers, which are both US.
- Jun 14, 2022iHype
CLB already has more songs top 100 (4) on Apple Music than Mr. Morale (3)
I'm more interested in seeing if MMATBS can spend as many weeks in the Billboard 200 top 10 as DLDT did (9 weeks).
- Jun 14, 2022Sonic Winter
Why you talking like Gunna can perform rn?
I’m not talking like he could perform before jail either.
- Jun 14, 2022martian master
The only time I saw global sales posted was when pages were mistakenly posting that Kanye did 307K in 4.5 days but 520K in his first full 7 days. Which was untrue. One was US sales and one was supposedly Worldwide sales.
I've followed sales for more than a decade and it's always been about Billboard Top 200 / HitsDailyDouble numbers, which are both US.
Someone who remembers what actually happened when CLB dropped.
- Jun 14, 2022gabapentin
Chart Methodologies
"The Album Chart based on sales and streaming data from the USA (Billboard Top 200), Japan (Oricon Album Chart), United Kingdom (Official Charts Company Top 100), France (SNEP Top Albums), Canada (Billboard Canadian Albums), Australia (ARIA Album Top 50), South Korea (Hanteo), and Netherlands (Mega Album Top 100). All above with sales stats."
These are the ones they actually have sales stats for.
"Furthermore the official charts from Germany (GfK Album Chart), Italy (FIMI Album Chart), Spain (Promusicae Top 100 Álbumes), Brazil (PMB), Mexico (Amprofon Top 100), Switzerland (Album Top 100), Belgium (Ultratop 200 Albums), Sweden (Sverige Topplistan, Veckans Albumlista), Austria (ORF Longplaycharts), Norway (VG Lista Topp 40 Album), Denmark (Hitlisterne Album Top 40), Finland (Suomen Virallinen, Albumit), Ireland (IRMA Top 100 Artist Albums), New Zealand (NZ Music Charts, Albums), Poland (OLIS, Top 50), Portugal (AFP Top Albums), Hungary (Mahasz Top 40 Albums), Czech Republic (IFPI CR, Top 100 Prodejní), Greece (IFPI Greece, Top 75 Albums Sales), Slovakia, South Africa, Argentina, Chile, and Colombia."
These are the ones they only have chart order for.
"The charts from countries without sales stats are weighted to the size of its markets according to the latest IFPI-statistics (exception: albums with huge sales in these countries are weighted higher)."
Basically they're saying they use the actual numbers and the ratios between albums from the countries in group #1 to fill in the sales stats blanks for #2.
"Albums which placed in most or all of our monitoring countries, get additional sales for countries, which haven't an official charts like Russia, China, India, Turkey etc."
And then this says that they apparently literally just take the data from that process and give the albums that were most popular in those "monitoring countries" and give the albums "additional sales" for the rest of the countries in the world that have no official charts.
So no they can't actually track sales in every single county. Just the countries that are basically part of the American sphere of influence and so which are basically extensions of the American music market (hence why almost of these artists are North American, even the Spanish-speaking artists like Bad Bunny, and the ones who aren't from North America are artists like Harry Styles or BTS who are also popular in the American market)
This is why the site itself is run by a guy named Fred Chuchel from Dresden, Germany who has spent the last 23 years writing about how much mostly-American artists sell in other countries whose charts are filled with Americans, and not run by a guy from San Bernardino, California who writes about German-language popstars all day
Sorry bro but there is no "global music market" that isn't just an extension of the American-centric music industry
Got his ass. America is the biggest music market and that's just facts.
- Jun 14, 2022thegreatdivine· edited
Saw something interesting on this week's Billboard 200 chart.
scorpion really aged like fine wine we love to see it 
Jun 14, 2022·1 replyBTS flopped then broke up
They aint made for the game
- Jun 14, 2022·editedTHEREALHNDRXXFREE
BTS flopped then broke up
They aint made for the game
They broke up?
Edit: never mind I peeped the thread lol
- Jun 14, 2022thegreatdivine· edited
Saw something interesting on this week's Billboard 200 chart.
scorpion outsellin flopfm. good music lasts right at weekday stans?
- Jun 14, 2022·edited·3 replies
Peeped some other interesting developments on this week's Billboard 200 chart.
- Jun 14, 2022·1 reply
Nothing is stopping you from bringing up those conversations.
Jun 14, 2022·1 replyU should make ur own thread or find ppl that care too
This thread is only good for American centric sales and/or how they can prop up drake with those metrics
Jun 14, 2022·2 repliesThey’re not even trying to hide it anymore
Jun 14, 2022Jalen Brunson FanThey’re not even trying to hide it anymore