ryuH

2y

Most of that is BECAUSE they are white and are guests in a predominantly black culture. It’s not because of the color of their skin obviously, it’s their cultural paradigm that is incompatible

Water Giver

2y

forreal, s*** i also been saying the last 2 years too

me n mitch had a good convo too n this what i said to him as well in his frusturation of people trying t prop the few "deep" songs over everything without any real reason:

"theyre just trying to make anything seem deeper, as usual

when the album is mostly about his roots - from how most of the album he switches literally from LA and Bayarea sounds, styles, lingo n references back n forth - to the west only feats besides sza n no industry people - to the buick gnx a rpized car to CA especially back in the 2000s when kendrick grew up - to the tde and gloria song - while continuing off of his pop out concert purpose and NLU mash of styles and emphasis on the culture you are actually from

his most straight froward, from the town album

yet internet-only schzio backpack rap "fans" still trying to ruin it, just like with damn era

anyways the whole state going up! and nigga gonna turn the super bowl into a shoot out function with this album"

s*** validates tf outta me too personally because ive always like a nigga with balance - one of the reason Kanye is literally my fav along with 2Pac and Kendrick

ive always perferred a nigga that got a book, but hides a knife in it

why i never been hot on overly rappy niggas like Lupe or Blu (although i do like stuff from them and respect it) - AND especially the rapper that raps about rap type niggas

my favs arent staright up "ignorant" niggas (although i do enjoy s*** like gucci and dem franchize boyz), but i dont like straight up "smart" niggas either

my top 3 in the 2010s was kendrick, asap rocky and big krit

along with those 3 my favs of all time is full of niggas like 2pac, kanye, dmx, 50 cent, lil wayne, mac mall, scarface, master p, camron, mob deep, jay z, outkast, pusha t, schoolboy q, mac miller (from macadelic forward), ice cube, future, spice 1, nas, waka flocka etc. off top of my head

niggas that are "smart" but also still talkin reality
and have an actual identity n still like fun every now n then

while niggas like gangstarr, black thought (i love roots phernology + and then you shoot your cousin albums), lupe (mainly T&Y) n a few others i listen to every now and then

and why i got a big beef with internet-only schizo backpack "rap fans"

and i got a slight distain with niggas with no actual background or basis in the genre/culture

its just different - and also you cant really get it - especially something like gnx that is so drenched in its roots and culture that you cant figure out so it comes off "random" and has to "mean somthing else" cuz you starting from zero and outside

down to they dont even get the basic of the car on the cover thus they try to tie it to some off the wall random s*** that has nothing to do with nothing

Ghost OG

2y

ill be honest, i dont really like the white narrative s***. while its obvious that black artists and musicians are successful and some have made it on their own and what not, to say that white people have no style or anything at all is ridiculous, considering the business is ran predominantly by them, and all of the most famous and largest acts are in large part found and put on by white people, that alone tells you that they are at least somewhat tapped in or have some kind of understanding, and have helped magnify the careers of many BECAUSE of the vision.

there will always be somewhat of a disconnect between cultures and races, it is expected and probably a good thing. But when you have an ear or an eye it is undeniable and race does not factor into that.

ImportedOliveOil_

2y

I like the way you put that. Would you say that you can still learn and grow a better understanding through history and conversation? it’s clear they want the most surface level conversation about everything. And I feel any type of historical context and understanding / better exposure to more art would make even the slightest more interesting conversations between them.

insertcoolnamehere

2y

Idgaf about sales for none of this s*** but this album is DEFINITELY not his most mainstream sounding album lol.

I’m telling yall the fact an album that sounds like this selling over 250k is an accomplishment in itself. As someone that lives here, gnx aint resonating with a lotta new yorkers (and I understand why tbh. Especially if this aint the specific cali sound that you like)

But this also is why we do need regionality back so much.

ImportedOliveOil_

2y

This is part of my argument too. You said it better I suppose.

Most people can not tell the difference between Monet and Manet (I understand this is paintings and we’re talking about music but that’s also the point).

When you have a culture that’s artistically deprived, this is the result you get.

ASAKI

2y

This can never be his most mainstream-sounding album when HUMBLE. and LOVE. exists

orobi

2y

Humble is literally an astronaut in the ocean tier rap song in retrospect

Ghost OG

2y

i think wording it as "most" people is kind of a wrong thing to say, you know? simply because you are talking about something that not a majority of people are educated on in the first place

i get your point though, while i can agree, im not sure how artistically deprived one culture is vs another when you consider time and dif eras.

ImportedOliveOil_

2y

I like the way you put that. Would you say that you can still learn and grow a better understanding through history and conversation? it’s clear they want the most surface level conversation about everything. And I feel any type of historical context and understanding / better exposure to more art would make even the slightest more interesting conversations between them.

ImportedOliveOil_

2y

I like the way you put that. Would you say that you can still learn and grow a better understanding through history and conversation? it’s clear they want the most surface level conversation about everything. And I feel any type of historical context and understanding / better exposure to more art would make even the slightest more interesting conversations between them.

9thWonderful

2y

Hey now, say now, I'm all about my Yen
Big face Buddha, get my peace from within

Ghost OG

2y

ill be honest, i dont really like the white narrative s***. while its obvious that black artists and musicians are successful and some have made it on their own and what not, to say that white people have no style or anything at all is ridiculous, considering the business is ran predominantly by them, and all of the most famous and largest acts are in large part found and put on by white people, that alone tells you that they are at least somewhat tapped in or have some kind of understanding, and have helped magnify the careers of many BECAUSE of the vision.

there will always be somewhat of a disconnect between cultures and races, it is expected and probably a good thing. But when you have an ear or an eye it is undeniable and race does not factor into that.

insertcoolnamehere

2y

Saved. Great post as usual

spongebob

2y

bro said GNX is his most accessible listen

Expert

2y

finished the budden podcast and he says something interesting at the end

he says someshit "Drake hope kendrick stays on this west coast s*** because the other songs he has info on are way bigger"

NicolasCageStan

2y

How is it not accessible? There's not some big overarching theme you have to listen to 100 times to understand it's just bangers and some more lowkey cuts