hence I enjoy this version more

Lol nasty nas had his own days under the sun, Nasir was like that, same way lupe was, lol let's not do this about nas! Not Nas

Ac is top 5 rn bro

Ether filled with elementary school jokes.

My guy did you not hear Push Ups like what lol

Ether when it came out was no elementary school jokes, everyone was shook. Jay lost!!!!

I swear KTT is the only site where I hear that Ether was a diss song filled with nothing but elementary school jokes

But when Ovhoes heard their Papi make fun of Kendrick for his height and him wearing a size 7 shoe "allegedly" this was their first initial reaction:

The internet and social media got yall thinking “Hotep” niggas ain’t wit the s***s. Nas still from QB :samunimpressed:

We need to bring back 5% niggas smacking up rappers then maybe we wouldn’t have so many niggas moving like birds.

Ether the better diss but Takeover is the better song by a mile

Not in my top 5, but I don't listen to a lot of his music and I'm more of a West Coast rap guy then the East

I never believed Nas talking tough and I'm more Hov biased because there were more gems and things I could relate to

Nah tbh all the Jay z nuthuggers like charlemagne ish, Mal, rory ect all run with that narrative cuz it makes Jay look better, cope if you will

5% ≠ Hotep

Hotep literally means peace or being at peace

No I don't believe any of Nas' tough talk. Jungle on the other hand is different

Cooked em

Not very war general like from Drizzy

Nah, but I see niggas itt need to have other niggas agree with them to make them feel valid

Heh, ebonyprince already confirmed some of this (the items drake tried to claim was part of his planting). At one point the stans were trying to run with drake dropping these specific items back in 2023 to diss these exact ppl

Is Kenny gonna have the nas effect. Nas battled Jay when nas himself was starting to lose his spark and Jay was at his absolute peak. Being the better rapper and writer and winning didn't do much cause Jay would go on to dominate but, Nas won

The facts are different this time around, I just hope the shart fart truthers accept facts, cause all my s*** is.. facts

i don’t like that yall reduce ether to the couple of gay jokes when there was so much more:

called hov a crew hopper
called out the deliberate parallels between the puffy/big relationship and dame/hov relationship
explained that jay’s sexist views was because girls called him ugly when he was a kid
created the narrative that eminem destroyed him on renegade
created the narrative that jay stole biggie’s bars

i still like takeover more as a song but ether definitely deserves the praise it gets as a diss record

Ether created 2 essential rap verbs, ether'd and renegaded

Drizzy really acknowledged that Kendrick is a Pulitzer Prize winner in the last track of the beef 🤭

I still think it works within K Dot's contrasting themes on the album

also i remember being a kid during the “rap is like a mountain” era watching youtube videos made by em stans of jay z rapping biggie lyrics and genuinely thinking he stole them and couldn’t be a GOAT rapper because of that

i know now that he was paying homage but that entire narrative wouldn’t exist if not for ether

Neither of which are a surprise dance album and both big trash, not even fred again.. can help keem on that

7 Minute Drill was unlistenable so I'm gonna say no

There's an alternate universe where he stayed in the beef, def wouldn't have won tho