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  • Jul 8, 2024
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    saucer

    the way he got done by rihanna i think really did a number on him

    even when they weren’t dating there are so many songs and eras of drake literally dedicated to the idea of wifing her, i think losing that really switched up his mindset

    Man, he was like that with Nicki too lmao.

    "I love Nicki Minaj. I told her I'd admit it, I hope one day we get married just to say we f***ing did it. And girl I'm f***ing serious, I'm with it if you with it-"

    Miss Me, 2010

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    SegaDreamFlash

    100%

    I been meaning to get this take off for a minute but idk how it would be perceived.

    But I had a talk about Eminem with @WT777 that made me come to this conclusion.

    IYRTITL is to Drake what The Eminem Show is to Marshall. A really great body of work that inadvertently f***ed up the rest of his career. All the criticisms both artists get in the current day can lowkey be traced back to those respective albums lol

    Right, like elements that worked well on those albums but kinda mutated and increased/exasturbated into chronic flaws as they went forward and got reused but in worse ways

  • SegaDreamFlash

    Shot For Me off Take Care is deff passive aggressive

    That's the exact song I had in mind lol. Sounds like some s*** the Weeknd would sing about

  • Jul 8, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Man, he was like that with Nicki too lmao.

    "I love Nicki Minaj. I told her I'd admit it, I hope one day we get married just to say we f***ing did it. And girl I'm f***ing serious, I'm with it if you with it-"

    Miss Me, 2010

    Lost count of the songs he did that on back thrn, always viewed make me proud as another lol

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    WT777

    Right, like elements that worked well on those albums but kinda mutated and increased/exasturbated into chronic flaws as they went forward and got reused but in worse ways

    Exacerbated*

    Sorry, couldn't help it

  • Jul 8, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Exacerbated*

    Sorry, couldn't help it

    I went thru 3 different attempts before that my phone don't know that word and I couldn't think of a synonym

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    WT777

    Right, like elements that worked well on those albums but kinda mutated and increased/exasturbated into chronic flaws as they went forward and got reused but in worse ways

    Yup. TES was the beginning of Em doing those motivational raps and obvious boomer rock samples so much, but they worked so well.

    IYRTITL was the beginning of tough talk from Drake and the misogynist undertones that had been there before were really brought to the forefront, but he still had so much good will built up

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    Drake beef churning 25k pages is nuts lmao

    Tens of thousands of posts pretending to shill for a musty midget man smfh

  • RosettaStonee

    Drake beef churning 25k pages is nuts lmao

    Tens of thousands of posts pretending to shill for a musty midget man smfh

    Musty midget man is a good one

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    SegaDreamFlash

    Yup. TES was the beginning of Em doing those motivational raps and obvious boomer rock samples so much, but they worked so well.

    IYRTITL was the beginning of tough talk from Drake and the misogynist undertones that had been there before were really brought to the forefront, but he still had so much good will built up

    Low key jt started his cringe attempts at actually singing too with Haileys Song, tho at least back then he knew he sucked at it and had fun with not hitting the high notes whereas now he's going full boy band on s*** like stronger than I was

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Yup. TES was the beginning of Em doing those motivational raps and obvious boomer rock samples so much, but they worked so well.

    IYRTITL was the beginning of tough talk from Drake and the misogynist undertones that had been there before were really brought to the forefront, but he still had so much good will built up

    This is gonna sound wild because Scorpion and CLB were massive, but Drake could be a "legacy" act for his core rap audience because of that catalog he built from 2011-2015.

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    WT777

    Low key jt started his cringe attempts at actually singing too with Haileys Song, tho at least back then he knew he sucked at it and had fun with not hitting the high notes whereas now he's going full boy band on s*** like stronger than I was

    NSYNC Eminem is some full circle nasty work

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    NSYNC Eminem is some full circle nasty work

    Stronger Than I Was

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    XODoors

    Stronger Than I Was

    I can’t lie tho I was downbad in an abusive relationship that gave me marriage divorce stress when that song came out and I kinda connected with it alil even if it was a weird ass song

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    WT777

    Low key jt started his cringe attempts at actually singing too with Haileys Song, tho at least back then he knew he sucked at it and had fun with not hitting the high notes whereas now he's going full boy band on s*** like stronger than I was

    you see it hailies song was good cuz of how self aware he was.

    But TES as a whole even though it's great started some of his bullshit which is why I can't call it my fave Em album lol

  • Jul 8, 2024

    These kendrick d*** riders keep getting me banned for having a opinion

  • Jul 8, 2024
    SegaDreamFlash

    you see it hailies song was good cuz of how self aware he was.

    But TES as a whole even though it's great started some of his bullshit which is why I can't call it my fave Em album lol

    I also seen abit of the tryhardness in My Dads Gone Crazy where it honestly felt alil tiring like that fire that he had during the first 2 albums was starting to die down for these types of raps.

  • Jul 8, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    NSYNC Eminem is some full circle nasty work

    Cuz I'm juuuuuuuust....voice crack FIIIIINE WITHOUTTTTCHUUUUUUU blablabla CUZIM STRONGA THAN I WUHHHUSSS

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    This is gonna sound wild because Scorpion and CLB were massive, but Drake could be a "legacy" act for his core rap audience because of that catalog he built from 2011-2015.

    I've been saying itt that some of the years in that "15 year run" folks keep flexing are a little off.

    Scorpion had the real hits on it for sure but even then, the kids were starting to find their own superstars.

    They all just died before they could blossom

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    SegaDreamFlash

    you see it hailies song was good cuz of how self aware he was.

    But TES as a whole even though it's great started some of his bullshit which is why I can't call it my fave Em album lol

    It's definitely the best one

  • Jul 8, 2024

    Like I don’t completely hate it but it felt like he was trying to tap in to an era that he was past already but he’s just not quite there

  • Jul 8, 2024
    XODoors

    I can’t lie tho I was downbad in an abusive relationship that gave me marriage divorce stress when that song came out and I kinda connected with it alil even if it was a weird ass song

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    But the good parts of TES outweigh the bad. Definitely my favorite Eminem album

  • Jul 8, 2024
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    TES is easily the most mature Eminem album out of his classics