ch33zey

6y

People freaking out because apparently Ye will confuse the Black people and keep them from voting for Biden

KuntaKinte

6y

I agree with saying the people chiding Kanye about splitting the black vote as being racist.

However my reasoning is different. Black voters are the most consistent voting block in the United States.

White people should honestly be worried about themselves.

Bringing up the third party s*** was weirdo projection. He should be mad that whites attribute their losses to black voters, especially white libs, as if blacks are so uneducated they get swayed by celebrities in regards to what candidate to vote for in the general (Not the primary). Complaining about white people chastising black people for voting Kanye because it's an attempt to lock them into a two party system is stupid. How is that what you have a problem with? That's not even a black specific opinion. This is how cac's feel about getting bullied for voting Gary Johnson. He is literally belly aching to defend weirdos voting for Kanye because he wants people to vote for a third party? No matter what said third party stands for??? Literally missing the point

All forms of voting matter. Talking about local elections during the National is stupid as f***. You are literally talking with people from different states who don't know who the f*** is working in your state legislature. Yes vote locally, but why are you highlighting it now. It reeks of peak bitter b**** energy. We are in the national, and you are arguing for local elections as an attempt to mitigate the importance of voting for the presidency?

The Presidency matters because this is the dude trying to currently stack up the Supreme Court
Also Trump has been weakening federal grants and healthcare that minorities benefit off of.

These are absolutely braindead points. BLM literally works in conjunction with getting people to vote on all levels of government.

Look at all the change we've done? Bro BLM has been a thing since before 2016, it took riots to get benevolent capitalist to start caping for black people during a nation wide pandemic.
Yeah no, a good rule of advice is to vote and vote in primaries so you can filter out people you don't want.

Not to mention the nigga in the vid is just blatantly d***riding Kanye and I'm a stan wtf

Why the f*** would I vote for Kanye for a third party?

Tl:Dr

His reasoning was dumb. In the US, black voters are the largest actual voting block with a consistent voting record. Hence the white fright about Blacks voting for Kanye is unwarranted and comes off as racially patronizing.

Oblivion X

6y

"He should be mad that whites attribute their losses to black voters,"

He addressed that in the video...the very first seconds of it.

And how is him bringing up the 3rd parties him projecting ?

He brought up local elections because most people neglect local election like I'm confused what ur problem with that statement is lol, yes presidential elections matter, him saying local elections deal with issues in community isnt him saying presidential elections dont matter

Why wouldnt black people want to vote for him as a third party ?

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6y

So they want us to vote for THEIR racist

This guy?

YANDHI

6y

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/03/05/joe-biden-tough-on-crime-speech.cnn

this dude Biden don't give a f*** man racist as hell

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6y

Don’t forget the guy you quoted defended Biden for being racist

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6y

Lmaooooooo lemme make sure I’m hearing y’all loud and CLEAR. I’m an idiot for voting for Kanye (who’s clearly a black person) instead of voting for a white man who’s clearly a racist (Biden)

Please make it make sense. I dare y’all

Oblivion X

6y

"He should be mad that whites attribute their losses to black voters,"

He addressed that in the video...the very first seconds of it.

And how is him bringing up the 3rd parties him projecting ?

He brought up local elections because most people neglect local election like I'm confused what ur problem with that statement is lol, yes presidential elections matter, him saying local elections deal with issues in community isnt him saying presidential elections dont matter

Why wouldnt black people want to vote for him as a third party ?

Oblivion X

6y

Yeah really dont know what his issues with people actually considering ye when u take in account the other two options lol

Zezima

6y

Cause independents have 0% chance of winning in 2020. And their aren’t many trump supporter who are going to switch their vote to Kanye, but maybe some Biden would switch their vote to Ye. Taking away from Biden only strengthens trump chance.

#dumptrumpperiod

You can take your personal vendetta out on Biden in 2024, but for now it’s

#DUMPTRUMP

KuntaKinte

6y

His reasoning behind his anger is misaligned.

The third party comment is a comment any person could make. No one if anything is trying to lock "black voters into a two party" system especially when Black voters tend to vote overwhelmingly Democrat. If anything it would be less about two party systems and moreso about reinforcing a narrative that all blacks vote for democratic candidates.

That comment is a personal projection because its based on how he feels about American politics as opposed to the reality of the group he's discussing.

Also, if you want to vote Kanye, go ahead. However Kanye isnt the third party hill to die on for black people wtf.

The third party s*** is vague as f*** too. Name a literal party or ideology, green, libertarian, socialist? Or better yet just say America needs to take more pointers from parliamentary systems of governance.

And that aside, dont ask me "why wouldnt the black electorate vote for Ye" because the chances are they wont. The older black voters that got Biden the nominee spot isnt voting for Kanye "slavery is a choice and Obama called me a jackass" West, after decades of being a heavily consistent voting base that isnt affected by populist.

The guy in the video never mentions that
Instead he just insinuates "If blacks vote for Kanye let them, it doesnt matter haha, vote locally".

You should vote in all levels. Mitigating it just to defend Kanye is braindead.

Literally ended it by saying "Kanye wont ruin the presidency haha, dont worry".

Stop defending this clown s*** from a literal Ye d***rider.
Youre being naiive, when some dude makes a whole video about third parties and local elections and ends it by saying "Ye wont ruin the presidency". Hes d***riding to subtly defend people voting for Ye under the assumption that Ye will get a large black vote (he wont)

Idk why we're being Koi

Oblivion X

6y

I'm be real with u, it seems like ur projecting due to fact that u think people are gonna vote for ye, literally nothing in that vid even suggests he a ye fan at all

Nothing wrong with saying we're stuck in a two party system, cause guess what ? we are

And no he insinuate there's a problem with white people trying to telling black people they shouldn't vote for ye cause they're taking votes from someone like Biden.

And again nothing wrong with advocating voting locally, cause like he said its something ur gonna immediately see. With this logic u must have a problem with Obama, and many other black activists saying the same thing right ?

KuntaKinte

6y

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I dont know if you have trouble reading or not.
So I'll bullet point

1. I looked through the thread and his posts. He's a Ye stan and no one said hes voting for Ye.
2. Voting at all levels of government is important
3. No one is saying that the overall system in the USA isnt a 2 party system. The argument is that White people are trying to forcefully lock Black people into a two party system when Black people predominantly vote one party. Hence Candace Owens advocating for things like Demexit. Absolutely no one expects Black people to vote either Dem or Repub. His argument doesnt engage the actual reality of black voters. Being locked into a two party system isnt even the first concern amongst the black electorate.
4. He's insinuating that voting for Ye is fine and wont matter and white people upset about it are portraying their subconscious racial bias. This isnt an argument, thats literally what hes doing. Hes arguing in favor of voting for Ye as a protest vote and if he does indeed win, it doesnt matter.

Seriously, stop defending some clown who said the presidency doesnt matter (and then paused cuz he didnt wanna look like a b****)

When covid has killed more black people than any other racial group while the president stayed ignoring the s***.

Dont be a clown

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So you want us to vote for Biden?

KuntaKinte

6y

I dont know if you have trouble reading or not.
So I'll bullet point

1. I looked through the thread and his posts. He's a Ye stan and no one said hes voting for Ye.
2. Voting at all levels of government is important
3. No one is saying that the overall system in the USA isnt a 2 party system. The argument is that White people are trying to forcefully lock Black people into a two party system when Black people predominantly vote one party. Hence Candace Owens advocating for things like Demexit. Absolutely no one expects Black people to vote either Dem or Repub. His argument doesnt engage the actual reality of black voters. Being locked into a two party system isnt even the first concern amongst the black electorate.
4. He's insinuating that voting for Ye is fine and wont matter and white people upset about it are portraying their subconscious racial bias. This isnt an argument, thats literally what hes doing. Hes arguing in favor of voting for Ye as a protest vote and if he does indeed win, it doesnt matter.

Seriously, stop defending some clown who said the presidency doesnt matter (and then paused cuz he didnt wanna look like a b****)

When covid has killed more black people than any other racial group while the president stayed ignoring the s***.

Dont be a clown

Bandito

6y

He sucks as well. But there’s only two “actual” candidates the rest of America considers. If you want trump out of power u have to vote for Biden.

Oblivion X

6y

I will restate this again

Him saying vote in locally elections is not him saying Presidential elections DONT matter, just like if someone said BLM, it dont mean all lives dont matter. He's putting a spotlight on elections that play a bigger role in your community that are usually neglected, there's literally no issue out of that.

So r u just missing the part where he address the "if u vote for a ye your voting trump" sentiment. is this statement that is also pair with the fact that black typically vote Democrat, not an issue of black people being locked in a 2 party system. Why you cant black people vote for ye just cause they want to, and it not being a issue of ur gonna affect the other two parties. So yes it is an issue of two party system

No he's insinuating that trump and biden aren't that much better options, and that if you want to vote for ye you should be able to

KuntaKinte

6y

Biden is better than both Trump and Ye by 900 percent.

Youre comparing a seasoned politician who has lead the way for several policies and was the reason Gay marriage was pushed thru in Obamas term, along with helping pass Obamacare to the xenophobic host of the new deal and the bipolar guy who makes music you like but wont finish albums and lies about release dates. Any of the democratic candidates would be better than Trump or Ye.

Relax, dont be crazy.

Again,

Learn subtext, if someone is making a video to defend voting for Ye, saying that a Ye presidency would have little effect, stresses that local elections matter more in general election season. They are basically drastically mitigating the impact of the presidency.

Why you want to die on this hill is beyond me.

Its not a third party issue. Its a Ye is stupid and they think he has clout with black people who they deem as uninformed voters issue.

Its really c***to see this as a third party issue and not a "Ye would be f***ing stupid. Stop voting literal celebrities into the highest office in the land" issue

And thinking Biden wouldnt be much better than Trump or Ye... Some of you really love talking about politics but sure dont love looking at actual policies and platforms.

You dont want someone with abject mania and no understanding of foreign issues dealing with overseas affairs.

Biden at least is loved in states like Kosovo and has experience in foreign policy.

You clowns want Kanye West negotiating settlements with Israel?

Americans are the most garbage f***ing voters. Ignorant of their stance in the world, literally defending voting for the least experienced people over their last vice president in a remotely calm presidency.

Utter clown show

Oblivion X

6y

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And you're comparing a seasoned politician who has lead the way for several policies such as the crime bill to the xenophobic host of the deal and the bipolar guy who makes music.

You do see why people dont like biden right ? Like deadass u sound like a goof ball

And please please tell me where I said I was going to vote for ye for you to start making assumption?

Again learn the idea that two things can be true at the same time. Him saying local elections are more important in your communities which is what he said, doesn't mean he thinks the presidential elections dont matter. Cause he said the presidental elections are not the only thing that matters.

KuntaKinte

6y

The crime bill was a popular bipartisan bill supported by the constituents of the USA.

Google that, tell me Im wrong. Post screenshots and links