Just say Trump is worse. That'll be keeping it simple.

We voting for Kanye, F*** TRUMP AND BIDEN

It’s safe to assume Biden rapes kids as well right?

I mean it’s basically confirmed Hillary does especially when she slipped up and said “comet pizza does not have a basement!!”

So we can assume that since Biden is heavily associated with Hilary he prolly f***ing kids too

I’m being dead serious, so don’t even with that tinfoil hat s***

i didn't say that, i'm asking you what you think. although surely you understand why some feel that if you don't vote biden, then you are letting trump have another 4 years? unless you're in a very safe dem state with no third party states in the us currently, trump will win where you are if you don't vote biden. there is an argument that you let you dissatisfaction be known or a special interest be known by voting third party or not voting at all, but idk how much truth there is in this. maybe a spike in the green party's vote would be noticeable to the corporate dem establishment but idk if it would be quickly forgotten. non-voting on a wider scale could be used by anyone for any a***ysis they want, it's essentially meaningless by that point.

biden isn't the candidate of people who truly oppose what trump's done or blm if you really think about it. for people who know about biden's long, often underwhelming political career but are voting for him anyway, i think it's not out of love for him but just because they're trying not to chip away at that anti-trump vote. so to them it is vote biden or pro-trump. in the uk i'll always say you're either pro-the status quo or you're voting with the labour movement. unfortunately in the us you have no party of the unions and workers like that. but it's essentially the same a or b framework that most people have to make their political decisions in if they're living under first past the post.

what you really want is a new electoral system that doesn't force you to make a binary choice or have your vote be completely meaningless. there's already millions of votes that make no tangible difference in safe states.

the last thing i'll say do you ever think that black people might be intelligent enough to have real reasons to vote democrat despite the democrats hurting them many times? it's a very complex relationship, it's not as simple as them being dumb and mentally enlsaved as the conservatives that were hanging round ye would have you believe. i don't think black people are dumb for voting for somebody who's not an ally cos they're scared of trump being off the leash for 4 years

Politicians are just bad people overall my guys. Which is why I don’t vote. Like if you had a choice to choose between Hepatitis, Herpes or nothing. What would y’all choose

Should’ve put this in politics section the way y’all fighting

All I know is I can start wearing my Yeezus 2020 merch again

yeah but fam they're just people at the top of the system. i know it sounds f***ed up but for a lot of what they do as president their personal morals won't have much to do with the outcomes, just who they chose to have around them. which is often the same people (which is why trump isn't that different-his whitehouse is swampy af. he didn't drain the swamp he reinfected it )

I know I’d rather have Trump in office than Biden. I know people will be more vocal of changes if Trumps in office. If Biden wins niggas will be complacent and relax cus “at least it ain’t Trump” and not even realize Biden is ONCE AGAIN f***ing us over and further not learning from history.

Niggas will literally and I mean LITERALLY accept anything that ain’t Trump, and that’s scary because they think it can’t get worse than Trump.

Same can be said about Trump and his ties to Jeffery Epstein. Same can also be said about Andrew Comou and how his brother always tryna cover s*** up

But you don’t think all these big time rapist finally getting caught isn’t apart of draining the swamp?

that's on movement politics to not let up.

i actually think movements will remain vocal tho.

Black Lives Matter emerged under the US' first black president who was way more loved than biden, so you don't think new movements or the same ones would continue under a corrupt old white president that people don't like that much? this is an era where growing focused movements are being way more effective than they were just ten years ago.

yeah but it's a different swamp to the one i thought trump was implying he was going to drain. seemed obvious to me he meant big money and the same advisors being everywhere from moments like that one in the republican debate when he said something like 'a lot of donors in here tonight'

I can guaranteed niggas will ease off the gas because “thank god it ain’t Trump”.....don’t get me wrong you’ll still have people being vocal, but those are the ones who’s always vocal.

Realize most these protest revolve around wanting Trump out of office. S*** is deadass a trend at this point with the whole #anybodybuttrump so niggas gon f*** around and get exactly what they asked for

To me drain the swamp and getting rid of the deep state alludes to what people call “conspiracy theories”

Don’t get me wrong trump could be using that lingo as buzzwords to appeal to people. But that’s the way I took it as getting rid of these child Rapist. I have to respect bruh calling out the clintons for being criminals and calling out all them deleted emails

Tf that b**** hiding?

you're right about some people, but they're the same people who don't do s*** anyway. there's more people making real action now than there has been at other times and the more progressive factions of mainstream parties are way stronger than they were a decade ago.

movements before BLM failed to gain traction but they managed it under the first black president because the culture had changed.

they managed things under Obama thing that they couldn't under Bush. post-crash, post-pandemic, post-social media people's engagement have changed.

michael moore got booed off stage for taking a stand about Iraq at an award show. you think that would happen in 2020? he'd get cheered now. those perspectives are more mainstream, and that arguably started under Obama not Trump

Do you think if it was Biden VS someone else mufuckas would be ignoring the crime bill and all of Joes racist antics? Or even defending it? Hell no. Niggas hate trump so much that they allow it to blind them from what Biden has truly shown us.

right well that's not what he meant, not at first anyway. that's not what Bannon and that lot were talking about.

i don't see how he's going to help get child rapists locked up tho. Trump more likely to get kids locked up for possession than child rapists. Very early on Jeff Sessions was going on a war on weed, that's the justice system they're trying to embolden not locking pedos.

Also, you really want that to be aided by trump picking a supreme court justice?

it seems like you more mad at democrats for being hypocritical and ineffective, but idk if that's a reason to be pro-trump. idk what your reason for wanting trump in is. maybe you want a more progressive left candidate to take the dem slate in 4 years if biden fails instead of risking 12 with biden+his vp? but rn idk what you actually are hoping to gain by having a more aggressive 2nd trump term

But you wanna know what else started under Obama? Police brutality being at its highest. So of course protest are gonna be taken more serious when s*** like that is happening. Obama didn’t just say “hey guys I want y’all to just randomly protest”....nah the police killing skyrocketed and niggas decided to take action

But Where was all this defund the police energy in 2015?

Where was all these sudden white allies in 2015? (no shade to whites I know real ones been rocking but not at this magnitude)

well no, but when was the last time there was a good mainstream presidential candidate? people trying to slowly go in the right direction, sometimes that means all you can have is a babystep. it's still not totally meaningless.

but yeah the dems are corrupt, corporate and position themselves in ways that mean they're trying to peel off soft republicans rather than move public opinion towards something actually progressive.

Biden is a relatively right wing candidate for a lot of countries. i feel like a lot of the base who supports the UK's main right party would support biden.

but this november it's biden or trump, good luck fam

Idk cus I did mention too Trump could very well be tied in with this s*** cus of his ties to Jeff Epstein.

I mean bro when you break it down, both these mufuckas is crooked. I don’t f*** with either. But unfortunately you have to pick the “lesser of two evils” cus as much as I would rather have Kanye win, it’s simply not gonna happen.

So ok let’s be logical here. Trump VS Biden, lesser of two evils. Now I’m a black man so I have to ask myself who has did more harm to black people? The answer is Biden with his crime bill. So if Trump hasn’t done a policy worse than Biden that still affects people
To this day, why would I rock with Biden?

It doesn’t excuse Trump for his bullshit, but if we picking the lesser of two evils we have to see who’s done worse.

some of that is a reaction to trump, but some of that is a credit to movements ranging from bernie on economic justice/healthcare etc. to blm on racial justice picking up more supporters over the years.

that's what movements are meant to do. if they're not growing they could be failing.

also is that really true bro? about police brutality being at it's highest? from everything i've picked up it's more likely that police brutality being filmed and shared was happening at a higher rate. a lot of those incidents would have been swept aside much easier in other times. the same thing happens rn with how many deaths have we seen in custody that we can't fully explain?

either way that's an injustice people were speaking out about under obama. i do hope people go hard at holding biden to account during his presidency in the same way they do trump cos he's not worth loyalty. they should make it so there's a situation where his vp isn't the presumed 2024 nominee. that's what i'd be more worried about, but if they do he'll respond to pressure to an extent despite never going far enough. Fam, trump won't respond at all. he's useless to these movements and often damaging too

idk what you're hoping to achieve by having him over a biden. biden might let someone like warren into his cabinet. imagine some of the s*** she could achieve if she was able to carry out just a small part of her agenda, that could change lives way more than trump keeping white people angry on twitter

Bro I keep telling you guys that the dude youre conversing with is a legit Trump supporter.

He literally was defending Trump calling neo nazis fine people