Did y’all read her post people are annoyed with her because of how defensive she’s been avoiding any and all criticism
she should've left the issue alone and not mention any names but I don't think there is any ill will in her statements
she should've left the issue alone and not mention any names but I don't think there is any ill will in her statements
Neither but I think she’s handling the response to it badly as well lmao
Like don’t go on the defensive immediately
Acknowledge the issue and the mistake, make it clear what you meant and what you didn’t mean and then defend to some extent
There’s nothing wrong with what she’s saying but there’s everything wrong with how she said it
For her to compare herself essentially exclusively to black women and then Ariana grande (who has had an unbelievably difficult few years) and then act like she’s more oppressed than they are is just so so stupid. She has a point completely in what she’s saying but she’s really awful in getting that across in an unproblematic and clear way
And then saying there needs to be a “new wave off feminism” for people like her
She’s attempting so hard to become off as though she’s oppressed as if she isn’t a wealthy white woman
It’s peak Karen behaviour, mix that with how defensive she’s being of all Critique no s*** people are annoyed at her
There’s nothing wrong with what she’s saying but there’s everything wrong with how she said it
For her to compare herself essentially exclusively to black women and then Ariana grande (who has had an unbelievably difficult few years) and then act like she’s more oppressed than they are is just so so stupid. She has a point completely in what she’s saying but she’s really awful in getting that across in an unproblematic and clear way
I see what you mean. like I said mentioning the artist was a mistake. She should realize her issues aren't necessarily compareable to others or better yet she's not the only one being criticized for her content
I just don’t understand how she has such a bad PR team
Like with that post she alienated both conservatives and liberals lol
There’s nothing wrong with what she’s saying but there’s everything wrong with how she said it
For her to compare herself essentially exclusively to black women and then Ariana grande (who has had an unbelievably difficult few years) and then act like she’s more oppressed than they are is just so so stupid. She has a point completely in what she’s saying but she’s really awful in getting that across in an unproblematic and clear way
I agree that her point would’ve came across a lot better if she hadn’t mentioned names at all
But it’s not like she’s saying she’s more oppressed than they are. She’s saying her subject matter in her songs is criticized but theirs isn’t. And not that theirs should be criticized, but hers shouldn’t either.
I’m sure she’s aware that black women have been oppressed more in life than she has, but she clearly was speaking strictly about subject matter in music
I see what you mean. like I said mentioning the artist was a mistake. She should realize her issues aren't necessarily compareable to others or better yet she's not the only one being criticized for her content
Exactly
Like why not use the fact that those artists have also gotten flack as part of the argument about patriarchy in the music industry
But instead she uses them as a “they’re not criticized why am I” which is just untrue and hurts her argument so much
I agree that her point would’ve came across a lot better if she hadn’t mentioned names at all
But it’s not like she’s saying she’s more oppressed than they are. She’s saying her subject matter in her songs is criticized but theirs isn’t. And not that theirs should be criticized, but hers shouldn’t either.
I’m sure she’s aware that black women have been oppressed more in life than she has, but she clearly was speaking strictly about subject matter in music
But theirs is definitely criticized
Like Nicki got enormous amounts of flack for being so sexualized
Ariana got serious flack for “using macs death” with thank u next
Etc
And yea I agree I’m sure she’s aware of that but she doesn’t make it clear enough
I agree that her point would’ve came across a lot better if she hadn’t mentioned names at all
But it’s not like she’s saying she’s more oppressed than they are. She’s saying her subject matter in her songs is criticized but theirs isn’t. And not that theirs should be criticized, but hers shouldn’t either.
I’m sure she’s aware that black women have been oppressed more in life than she has, but she clearly was speaking strictly about subject matter in music
Except they have and at an obscene rate especially Nicki and Beyoncé
I promise you nicki and Beyoncé have had much worse attacks on the content of their music then Lana ever has or will and especially in recent times
The critiques she’s talking about haven’t even been present for years now, so for her to bring it up randomly especially in these to portray herself as some poor oppressed woman is extremely f***ing tone deaf and laughable
People were literally calling for bey to be lynched on twitter as a result of her calling out police brutality in 2016
But theirs is definitely criticized
Like Nicki got enormous amounts of flack for being so sexualized
Ariana got serious flack for “using macs death” with thank u next
Etc
And yea I agree I’m sure she’s aware of that but she doesn’t make it clear enough
Yeah I can agree with the last part
I honestly can’t speak on the rest, again I’ve never listened to her music
And yeah maybe Nicki got criticized for being sexualized af but that’s clearly accepted now, especially since the rise of Cardi and Meg
Idk if Ariana actually did that, I don’t listen to her either but if she did, I think it’s fair for her to be criticized. That’s justified criticism, just like how Nicki was critized early on for having bisexual lyrics and claiming to be bi but saying she could never be in a romantic relationship with a woman and then years later saying she’s not bisexual at all. S*** like that deserves criticism
Seems like people in this thread are saying the criticism Lana faces is that she fetishizes abusive relationships and borderline rape. I can’t speak on if she does. If she does I’d say that’s justified criticism, if she doesn’t I’d understand her viewpoint
Except they have and at an obscene rate especially Nicki and Beyoncé
I’m not disagreeing but when did Beyoncé face unjustified criticism for her lyrics?
I’m not disagreeing but when did Beyoncé face unjustified criticism for her lyrics?
There were headlines on Fox News for a week straight about Beyoncé in her self titled era simply for singing about having s***with Hov and being sexually liberated
There were headlines on Fox News for a week straight about Beyoncé in her self titled era simply for singing about having s***with Hov and being sexually liberated
Huh that’s wild
Yeah that’s super unjustified criticism
Huh that’s wild
Yeah that’s super unjustified criticism
yeah I'd be fine with most of Lana's message if she just didn't bring them into it
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/bill-oreilly-blames-beyonce-for-black-teen-pregnancy/361385
and then her trying to deflect further on makes it even worse
yeah I'd be fine with most of Lana's message if she just didn't bring them into it
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/bill-oreilly-blames-beyonce-for-black-teen-pregnancy/361385/
and then her trying to deflect further on makes it even worse
Eh this is Bill O’Reilly tho
He obviously doesn’t believe this, he just says it to get attention. Skip Bayless of the politics world
But I agree with you
yeah I'd be fine with most of Lana's message if she just didn't bring them into it
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/bill-oreilly-blames-beyonce-for-black-teen-pregnancy/361385/
and then her trying to deflect further on makes it even worse
wow
how on earth did people manage to make her post about race?
"they" really be on some corny sensitive s***
@Lamont idk if this is true but did u see this?
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo
how on earth did people manage to make her post about race?
"they" really be on some corny sensitive s***
welcome to the world we live in
She can at least say she has the best album out of anyone she mentioned. Talk your s*** Lana.