HaroldsChicken

4y

It’s calculated viral programming . Like you can literally see and hear what it wants the viewer to feel at all times

lukedelain

4y

I get your point, blockbusters have always been around so why should we disparage these movies anymore than the others?
Well its bc the studios aren't even f***ing trying anymore. These movies are so boring and predictable, they are bad cinema. It's a problem that came from the marvel blueprint, those movies are legitimately hard to watch. But not in a "I dont understand or they are trying too hard" way, but in a way that they treat the audience like they are f***ing dumb. There used to be more of an inbetween with blockbusters and the reason they were entertaining was because it felt like the protoganists may actually sacrifice or lose something i.e. the stakes felt real.

Now with a sequel coming out every 6 months for every f***ing superhero, its like watching a high budget CW tv show that they keep renewing for another season.

So the reason these movies deserve to be disparaged is because they are taking precedent in the industry. I'm not suggesting box office is an accurate judge of quality but just compare the top 5 box office movies of 1999 vs 2021.

1999
1 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
2 The Sixth Sense
3 Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
4 Toy Story 2
5 The Matrix

2021
1 Spider-Man: No Way Home
2 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
3 Venom: Let There Be Carnage
4 Black Widow
5 F9: The Fast Saga

be2sane

4y

That yt reaction vid made my skin crawl dude

lukedelain

4y

I get your point, blockbusters have always been around so why should we disparage these movies anymore than the others?
Well its bc the studios aren't even f***ing trying anymore. These movies are so boring and predictable, they are bad cinema. It's a problem that came from the marvel blueprint, those movies are legitimately hard to watch. But not in a "I dont understand or they are trying too hard" way, but in a way that they treat the audience like they are f***ing dumb. There used to be more of an inbetween with blockbusters and the reason they were entertaining was because it felt like the protoganists may actually sacrifice or lose something i.e. the stakes felt real.

Now with a sequel coming out every 6 months for every f***ing superhero, its like watching a high budget CW tv show that they keep renewing for another season.

So the reason these movies deserve to be disparaged is because they are taking precedent in the industry. I'm not suggesting box office is an accurate judge of quality but just compare the top 5 box office movies of 1999 vs 2021.

1999
1 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
2 The Sixth Sense
3 Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
4 Toy Story 2
5 The Matrix

2021
1 Spider-Man: No Way Home
2 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
3 Venom: Let There Be Carnage
4 Black Widow
5 F9: The Fast Saga

SegaDreamFlash

4y

This list is crazy. A movie like 6th sense would never crack the top 5 in 2021

JaeRell

4y

This amusement park sound dope

HaroldsChicken

4y

Signed lease @be2

HaroldsChicken

4y

So if people won’t buy thought provoking things because “ I just want fun “ doesn’t that in a way ruin movies ? Like what is the dark souls of movies where people go in to be confused and discuss ? S*** even if tv at this point

People don’t go to movies for boss fights they go for God mode

HaroldsChicken

4y

So if people won’t buy thought provoking things because “ I just want fun “ doesn’t that in a way ruin movies ? Like what is the dark souls of movies where people go in to be confused and discuss ? S*** even if tv at this point

People don’t go to movies for boss fights they go for God mode

Mac Wit Da Cheese

4y

I’m not gonna argue they’re quality cinema but you realize there’s a larger market of people who only look for movies to entertain. They don’t want anything else from their movies and that doesn’t make them less or dumber than anyone else. Maybe they need an escape from their own stressful life

You’re right that MCU has over saturated the CBM genre but the way they they built this universe it’s like every movie is marketed as a sequel to an ongoing story which makes movie goers continuing to watch them.

Sequels of popular franchises are almost always cash grabs but they do numbers. I can at least give MCU credit with their reign they’ve tried to diversify casts so that Asian, black, and women led movies are doing numbers so that hopefully in the future blockbusters can see it can be profitable

Mac Wit Da Cheese

4y

Top 5 movies of 2007:

1) Spider-Man 3
2) Shrek the Third
3) Transformers
4) Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End
5) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Sequels/remakes of popular established franchises = money. This didn’t start with the MCU

Mac Wit Da Cheese

4y

Top 5 movies of 2007:

1) Spider-Man 3
2) Shrek the Third
3) Transformers
4) Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End
5) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

Sequels/remakes of popular established franchises = money. This didn’t start with the MCU

lukedelain

4y

Obviously I realize that there is a large market of people who only want movies to entertain. The problem is now this market accepts any garbage they put out now and it is taking precedent within the industry. Leading to sequels of every single relatively successful movie instead of new original movies.

My main point is these movies are NOT entertaining, but the "entertainment-interested" movie goer does not seem to care they are being fed the same garbage over and over.

be2sane

4y

the trouble with criticising blockbusters is that the train won't stop anytime now

it's like marketing for films... just a lot of research put into film that can't but work everytime...

and the continued success of movies at the box office guarantees a refinement of the method until people are legit tired of it

Mac Wit Da Cheese

4y

This just comes down to opinions at this point and we’ll never come to a conclusion when it’s your opinion vs someone else’s

When the movies continue to gather viewers and get decent reviews what else can we base if it’s good or not besides our own personal opinion