beflygelt

2mo

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Buffy 11/10

Angel 9/10

both shows absolutely goat character development over the seasons, what a journey. feel free to shoot me some recommendations for shows which have such a constantly shifting ensemble dynamic and so much development - it's really wild to compare Buffy S1 with S7. outside of Firefly (also Whedon) haven't rly seen anything like it.

I wrote a more general pitch on why you should watch Buffy in the buffy thread here:
https://ktt2.com/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-topic-32491571/2#post-49227537

my personal experience of the quality of the shows throughout the seasons:

Buffy is fun from the get go and immediately sets itself up well with a winning episodic formula, I love how they develop the lore and storytelling a lot more in S2 and S3 and while there's a couple lost stretches and fillers throughout it only gets better from there imo. S4 is maybe the overall strongest, S5 is a bit more inconsistent but has some of the hardest hitting episodes. things get messy with S6 tbh, but I respect how savage and dark it got, S7 to me was easily the weakest and a bit contrived at points, with some characters like Caleb just seeming more like hamfisted plot devices... it really suffers from never managing to restore a sense of sitcom normalcy which gave the whole show its backbone. but it did bring everything to an impressively satisfying end given how complex the whole lore and web of characters got.

Angel S1 didn't immediately hook me, I could vibe with the idea of a darker urban take on this world and it had cool bits, but seemed directionless. I was really impressed how they gave it direction and structure with S2 and S3, which is maybe the most consistent run in either show. loved how they're zeroing in on the greys which made buffy look much more black and white in comparison, really settling intl its own distinct groove. but the S4 comes in and it's such a clusterfuck. like it's still ok, but damn. definitely the worst season of either show. S5 is a return to form, to me not as great as 2/3 but easily some of the most fun episodes and a really savage final arc.

overall Angel is pretty great and a must see if you already love Buffy, I could also see it appealing to some people who don't even like Buffy as much. that said I think Buffy has a way more solid structure and overall stronger characters and has a crazy ability to hit you with emotional gut punches on a regular basis, even just over little things. Angel had these, too, but not as many and not as profound ones as some of the more serious buffy episodes.

Young D

2mo

Has anyone here watched This is Us? (NBC show)

Seems kinda corny, but surprisingly I’ve heard really good things and my wife wants to watch it

Kabel

2mo

these 22 ep per season shows really feel different. i think i'm going to watch Lost again for the first time in over a decade.

Yapper

2mo

watch Fringe. JJ Abrams most underrated show

Yapper

2mo

watch Fringe. JJ Abrams most underrated show

Kabel

2mo

oh that's actually one of my favourite shows ever hah. i've rewatched it recently-ish and I thought the ending held up even better today. They stuck the landing imo.

It's why I want to watch Lost again. I never watched it durings it's airing until pretty much the final episode aired so I didn't have a big attachment to the ending. Plus I was way younger.