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  • Updated Sep 15, 2021

    I think that we're better than conde nast pitchfork, rolling stone and needledrop put together in terms of music nerdery so let's put out a list. What do you think are the most important songs of the 21st century in all of music (not just hiphop)?

    Ok, so in a novel attempt to be some form of objective about this, ive drafted a score system out of 100:

    33 points: musical influence. example of a 33 in this is hard in the paint
    10 points: major label industry influence. example of a 10 in this is i gotta feeling
    12 points: memeability on social media and remixes. Example of a 12: harlem shake.
    10 points: is the album its on hot/importance in artist's era. example 10: runaway
    10 points: charting numbers. 10 is a billboard no1 for multiple weeks
    15 points: historical/political importance. example of a 15: alright
    10 points: use in other s***: namedrops, licensed for other media, sampled. example 10: x gon give it to ya

    I'm open to revising that scorecard breakdown as that just reflects what i personally believe what makes a song important. I think if we put this together will compelling enough content, we could send it to complex and and other media outlets and publicize it.

    Once we all agree on a list we should write up songs and give them scores with a sentence or two justifying the score in each category. writeups that have at least 2 heart likes (or if two people write up the same song with different opinions we'll use the one with the most likes) will have their song and score added to THE LIST, which of course will be sorted in score order.

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    here's an example writeup:

    Ramriddlz - Sweeterman

    Musical Influence 24
    A coworker of mine linked last week to a song by a chinese pop artist with very political lyrics about the lgbt struggle in that part of the world. the music video for that song has 20 million views. The beat is, strangely, very dancehall, and we know that comes from drake. But where did drake get it? From f***ing sweeterman.

    Industry Influence: 5
    Drake finally realized that he doesnt have to sign these kids, he can just take their sounds and leave em with a remix

    Memeability/remixes: 9
    Viral hit that lead to that Drake remix, which as commonly known was removed from soundcloud and reworked into what eventually would become Hotline Bling

    Importance to Artist: 7
    A breakthrough for Ramriddlz, but from what I understand it was only on his debut project P2P EP as a remix. Ram didn't let it define him tho, and organically moved away from the sound with producer jaagan as he developed as an artist. never lost that sense of humor tho

    Numbers: 3
    his most popular song. Although the video has 2 million views on youtube, searching billboard's site doesnt even bring up an artist page for ramriddlz

    Historical/Political Importance: 5
    Helped define the image of toronto, the whole story with drake. otherwise a footnote in terms of movements

    Use in other s***: 1
    Outside of its influence, I dont know of anything that directly references or uses ramriddlz or this song.

    Total score: 53

  • Sep 15, 2021

    holding post for the list:

  • Sep 15, 2021

    1. Flashing Lights - Kanye West

  • Sep 15, 2021

    lose your self Eminem

  • Sep 15, 2021

    lollipop carti

  • Nessy 🦎
    Sep 15, 2021
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    I know OP did not just post RAMRIDDLZ as one of the 100 most important songs of the decade

  • Nessy 🦎
    Sep 15, 2021
    Bow And Arrow

    I know OP did not just post RAMRIDDLZ as one of the 100 most important songs of the decade

    changed the world

  • Sep 15, 2021

    @continuum @ready2die @Nessy

    What do you think of my scoring criteria? any suggestions for improvement?

    Also please do a writeup/score breakdown

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    Gods Plan
    A Milli
    Only
    Forever
    The Motto
    Fefe
    Superbass
    lollipop
    I'm The One
    Love Me

  • Sep 15, 2021

    love sosa

  • KEV 💥
    Sep 15, 2021

    Drake

  • Sep 15, 2021

    playboi carti - flatbed freestyle

    100 points

  • Sep 15, 2021

    Runaway gets a perfect score

  • Sep 15, 2021

    Kick, Push

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    this is too broad

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    CLB Fractions

    Gods Plan
    A Milli
    Only
    Forever
    The Motto
    Fefe
    Superbass
    lollipop
    I'm The One
    Love Me

    BRO FEFE?

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    PinkANDWhite

    this is too broad

    how? I'm not limiting the amount of entries on the list, and i think it would be interesting to represent all genres. like, i think stuff like BTSTU should be on the list, but that's not hip hop. plus hiphop got a lot of genres too.

    if you mean the indie/major dichotomy i have weighted the scoring to favor the originators of a sound more than whoever made it hot. Does that seem fair?

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    Twist Your Cap

    BRO FEFE?

    it fits all the criteria yall switchin up cause 69 antics after release

    FEFE almost diamond and went top 3

  • Sep 15, 2021

    Kanye discog

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    CLB Fractions
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    it fits all the criteria yall switchin up cause 69 antics after release

    FEFE almost diamond and went top 3

    If you were gonna say a 69 song just put GUMMO, the actually good song that spawned his short career

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    Trap a holic

    how? I'm not limiting the amount of entries on the list, and i think it would be interesting to represent all genres. like, i think stuff like BTSTU should be on the list, but that's not hip hop. plus hiphop got a lot of genres too.

    if you mean the indie/major dichotomy i have weighted the scoring to favor the originators of a sound more than whoever made it hot. Does that seem fair?

    I mean that 90% of the people on this forum only listen to hiphop and all the replies so far are hiphop

    I think having separate threads for each genre would be ideal but a ton of work

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    PinkANDWhite

    I mean that 90% of the people on this forum only listen to hiphop and all the replies so far are hiphop

    I think having separate threads for each genre would be ideal but a ton of work

    ngl i assumed it was rap only.

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    CLB Fractions

    Gods Plan
    A Milli
    Only
    Forever
    The Motto
    Fefe
    Superbass
    lollipop
    I'm The One
    Love Me

    I fwu but this list is ass

  • Sep 15, 2021

    Lift Yourself