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  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 23, 2023
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    does not surprise me lmao

    anyone who thinks this is a new concept or that trans existence is new is brainwashed by colonialism

    must wish them the best

    The Quran itself acknowledges humanity beyond two genders

    A book from thousands of years ago written by Warlords that is now twisted by Islamic dominant countries to persecute minorities of all aspects

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 23, 2023

    The a***ysis reveals that being transgender is a natural occurrence and the Qur’ān unequivocally acknowledges the existence of transgender people (Qur’an, 42: 49–50).

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 23, 2023
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    (42:49) The dominion of the heavens and the earth belongs to Allah.76 He creates whatever He pleases. He grants females to whomever He pleases and males to whomever He pleases, (42:50) or grants them a mix of males and females, and causes whomever He pleases to be barren. He is All- Knowing, All-Powerful

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    Mr Motion

    I’m really trying to understand what you mean. Are you saying like for example, instead of saying women, I say b****es in reference to them? Which is disrespectful and dehumanizing.

    That is what me referring to some trans women as “women with d***s” would be equivalent to? Am I comprehending that correctly?

    do you call cishet women "women with vaginas" in regular conversation?

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    blonded

    again;

    tell 20 people trans women are women
    tell 20 people /why/ trans women are women, how gender and sexuality work, build the foundations of that argument

    tell me which one is more likely to elicit change

    and when appeals to logic doesn't work (cause historically it never has) what happens next chairman?

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    insertcoolnamehere

    and when appeals to logic doesn't work (cause historically it never has) what happens next chairman?

    Protracted people's war

  • Thread went so left field I forgot this was a no jumper related thread

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Protracted people's war

    tryna get people to connect the dots that this was what a certain demographic had to do in the 60s because "building foundations of that argument" didn't move the needle not once lol.

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    insertcoolnamehere

    do you call cishet women "women with vaginas" in regular conversation?

    So we're dancing around the differences? There was a time when referring to women where it would be innocuous, but now that isn't so much the case.

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    So we're dancing around the differences? There was a time when referring to women where it would be innocuous, but now that isn't so much the case.

    yes or no question my guy. lol.

    minimizing ANYONE of any gender, class, race, etc to what's between their legs is dehumanizing and legit does nothing to show that you are open to a conversation around why trans women are still women bro.

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    insertcoolnamehere

    tryna get people to connect the dots that this was what a certain demographic had to do in the 60s because "building foundations of that argument" didn't move the needle not once lol.

    I'm all for political action that goes beyond words if u catch my drift but i think it's worth explaining theoretical concepts in an easy and accessible way for people who could be open to changing their mind on something for the better

    Of course nobody is obliged to do this

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    insertcoolnamehere

    yes or no question my guy. lol.

    minimizing ANYONE of any gender, class, race, etc to what's between their legs is dehumanizing and legit does nothing to show that you are open to a conversation around why trans women are still women bro.

    I have made reference to women by their body parts, yes. I still do when engaging in barbershop talk from time to time.

  • Jan 23, 2023
    Scratchin Mamba

    I'm all for political action that goes beyond words if u catch my drift but i think it's worth explaining theoretical concepts in an easy and accessible way for people who could be open to changing their mind on something for the better

    Of course nobody is obliged to do this

    And all I'm saying is...shit's been done.

    There are l&a threads from months/years ago around trans athletes and other trans relate content where trans users of this site have tried to talk and give legit advice to users that didn't understand just to get called names and be dismissed regardless of those acts of appealing to logic lol.

    Like you said, nobody is obliged to do that sort of work. It's tiring and as a person of color it can be downright draining to have to somehow validate your existence to someone who aint even tryna listen to anything u sayin cause they mind was made up before niggas even started talking.

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    Mr Motion

    I have made reference to women by their body parts, yes. I still do when engaging in barbershop talk from time to time.

    and in most cases in this society that we live in, that would be looked down upon

    but we know that cause women talk about feeling dehumanized all the time.

    So once again, when you say "chicks with d***s" when referring to trans women, it makes anyone on the "trans acceptance" side less likely to want to engage in a conversation with you explaining the difference.

  • Jan 23, 2023

    a f*** nigga that aint here no more thank god brought up autism in one of those threads during a conversation man like what you expect somebody to say in response to that

  • Jan 23, 2023

    or just trans women, that works too

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    Women come with d***s now. That is crude, but hardly transphobic imo. Will you have people saying it in a condescending, tongue in cheek, sort of way? Absolutely, that don't make the statement untrue. You'd have to take context into account rather than sweeping such a broad thing as transphobic

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 23, 2023

    Oh my lord

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    Mr Motion

    Women come with d***s now. That is crude, but hardly transphobic imo. Will you have people saying it in a condescending, tongue in cheek, sort of way? Absolutely, that don't make the statement untrue. You'd have to take context into account rather than sweeping such a broad thing as transphobic

    So post-OP are women?

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 23, 2023

    A classic example,

    The Wachowskis are and were women.

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    TTU

    So post-OP are women?

    Even without surgery, or any gender affirming actions taken, they're women.

  • Jan 23, 2023

    yall niggas got it bro. peace.

    I wish American media wasn't so dead set on whitewashing everything LGBTQIA+ related. If more black LGBTQIA+ activists were highlighted and normalized like Marsha P. Johnson were talked about more growing up, black folks as a whole would be so much more understanding to these issues man.

    But yall got it.

  • Jan 23, 2023
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    Mr Motion

    Even without surgery, or any gender affirming actions taken, they're women.

    How do the biological women feel about this where the biological women of ktt

  • Jan 23, 2023
    KILLA CAM 300

    How do the biological women feel about this where the biological women of ktt

    Idk @ some women to chime in.

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