most people will be vaxed by then i hope

Mtl, big three??

Who else is in this big three

only 3 relevant canadian cities...vancouver, mtl and toronto

yeah there will be no restrictions by then

prolly covid related

I thought he was doing a concert today because

dope

coronavirus is life for the next few years unfortunately

there weren’t gonna be enough people to fill the room regardless of the rules i could just social distance while i’m there

can he come to australia we have so little cases

This is that NY nigga energy

was this an attempt at humor

yes, I saw him a few days after Pop Smoke passed, dude was emotional understandingly but still was a great performer

Good luck with Europe lmao

Rather get COVID

Alexa, play Kanye West New Slaves...

Refunding after it gets cancelled costs quite a lot if you're not insured

In what way? I can only think of manpower having to go through refund requests and maybe bank fees which seem neglible but I may not be seeing something.

Depending on the different venues, they make a deal with them which most of the time requires an upfront pay for the reservation of the timeslot (reservering 3 days in a row for the O2 arena for example). That money won't be returned unless you're a major artist with money for solid insurance and even that won't cover all costs.

An artist/label also pays for promotion (posters + different sorts of advertising), technicians and other people who are attending the tour, travel (flying + staying) and preparation (tour stage design, practicing etc). Depending on the popularity of an artist and the insurance they got it can be pretty risky to announce a tour which is highly uncertain.

I feel like your first paragraph is more related for normal circumstances and for the artist not showing up on his own intent? I feel like these deals will be structured a bit differently for the latter half of 2021. Like if the rules & regulations surrounding the virus are still in place by time of the concert and it can't proceed, the venue doesn't lose more there than it already has. A reservation fee makes sense when an other artist could take the slot of the booked artist not showing up. But if the venue can't book anyone else anyway, I feel it's not necessary?

Promotion I imagine will be very limited because they're the first few concerts back which will bring a huge spike in interest anyway. Maybe some social media ads, which are quite cheap again I feel. Roadies work on temp contracts AFAIK (might be wrong) so that'll be known in advance too and same for travel. Can't imagine the stage design being much more than a video on a beamer anyway because we're talking about a small venue tour (1.5k-2k cap), not a stadium tour. That's why I feel bigger artists are holding their tours early 2022 or later, because then those things you mention have a way bigger importance. But I was thinking merely about smaller artists when I made my previous post and this one, where I feel these things don't have as much of an impact.

He's 100% getting a paid appearance at Apt.200 after.

Maybe it's not necessary but I doubt venues will reserve dates for free and insurances cover all costs especially since everyone wants to book dates even though it's uncertain. And you also have to take in mind the margins of profit are much smaller for these artists compared to A list performers. So even when they take a little gamble it will result in losses in the end.

I understand the logic of everything being small investments, but you're planning a tour for multiple months so staff and other expenses will add up. Right because these artists are smaller they're more affected by these costs.

Edit: Maybe booking agents and promoters got some sort of government insurance that'll cover these. In The Netherlands governments does this for festivals and events organised during or after july.