they literally have.

what has ten hag done better than ole? dying to find out.

other than being more dutch than ole, what do you defend him based off?

Mendy shouldve had be2ye as his PR director, he'd be at Real Madrid by now.

You can’t argue your own argument and then ask me to defend it

Listen next time i repeat myself

Ole Mourinho and Van Gaal were all better than United fans appreciated them as

Ten Hag is no different.

The board and structure doesn’t lend itself to succeed with the squad. The squad is ill-picked and not meshing well especially considering the mentality and high wages that contribute to lackluster output.

Polishing a turd isn’t going to go over well for any top manager. Not no Ancelotti or Zidane would polish it into anything shiny

Murtough has not been sacked officially bro…

With him in charge of transfers you could get SAF, Cruyff, Pep, Busby or Zidane managing and we still wouldn’t get a pl medal.

EtH is not it, but as long as Murtough is here nobody will bring us back to the top

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Is there that much of a difference between 6-1 and 7-0 that somehow Ten Hag commited some mortal immediately banishable sin?

The City side had Joleon Lescott and Gareth Barry in it ffs.

Why are we expecting us to be the finished article after one season? There were clear signs of a positive trajectory. Are you lot forgetting just how bad some of these players were during end of Ole/Ragnick era?

It's just revisionism at this point to act like we didn't have a positive first season under Ten Hag or there was no development.

We didn't always play like s***. We had areas to improve and the hope was this second window we would be able to get players in to build more towards the play style Ten Hag wanted. If he gets sacked it's because for whatever reason he has opted to self-sabotage and stray from that intention. But don't let the current anger falsify the past.

Damn

Revisionism too. Everyone by and large was quite excited with our window.

A seemingly top keeper, fresh off a quality CL final performance, for a great fee, who would remedy our biggest issue with De Gea.

A very promising young striker at a time we desperately needed a striker.

A premier league proven midfielder who looked a good fit for the high pressing playstyle we thought we were gonna get.

A defensive midfielder to provide some backup for Casemiro finally.

Those were some key areas to get addressed.

Go back to where I quoted you. A few people itt were definitely not ok w our last transfer window, myself included. We could see from a mile away that it wasn’t going to be good enough to compete for the title.

A few people is a few people. The vast majority of us were pretty damn happy with it.

We had a 6.5/10. I’m at a restaurant otherwise I may have gone back go May 2023 to find my post about it.

My vibe is the same it was a step in right direction, but super flawed cause he didn’t build anything. Same crap football. Same players. Lots of player drama. Etc.

Fumbled all summer transfers, and alas here we are.

Who cares if we were happy or not. End of the day we can only judge on what we see. None of em have panned out. His fault. I can make an argument that ten hag does f*** all on the training ground and therefore is ruining any transfer we get.

Malacia looked so promising until he got ate alive by City

Nobody was excited for Mount bro, I think that's one thing we were all questioning from the jump.

I'm not disagreeing with that!

I've always been consistent with all of our managers failings that it was on them first and foremost. Ten Hag got the players he wanted but he's f***ed it. I'm not arguing that. I said myself he's probably as good as gone and so be it.

It's insane that both Maddison and JWP were available but we signed Mount. I know that's very obvious and everything, but it shows how out of touch our recruitment people are that we didn't sign a set piece specialist with how terrible we are at them.

Fair play. Listen I wanted him to succeed. Same as I did Mou and Ole.

But it’s a big job and I do believe eventually believe the right bloke will arrive.

Hag and the lot may be unlucky that they’ve had to deal with Woodward/Murtough running s*** when they’re competing against rivals that have never been smarter. And Ferg left just before Liverpool City Arsenal got their s*** together. Good timing and maybe lucky.