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  • May 27, 2021
    DREE

    You have to wonder what our away record will look like next season with fans back as well. I highly doubt it will be as good as this years.

    Bro we came from behind like 10 times this season??

    That’s outrageous form that is never going to be sustained lmao

    Next season could be very messy for Ole

  • May 27, 2021
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    Get some good players in, at least 3 players that will definitely make our starting XI better. If Ole doesn’t perform after that, we got to get rid of him. Not now yet tho, a lot of ppl completely forgot we got exactly zero of the players Ole wanted last summer, he wasn’t supported at all by the board, I think Us getting second place was the highest league position we could get after that atrocious transfer window/start of the season.

  • May 27, 2021

    Wallahi I would chuck money at Conte.

    He might sell Rashford and Greenwood to buy some 33 year old cloggers and he might turn Dan James into our starting wingback but he would 100% win a league title if you give him what he wants

    Otherwise we’re just still sat here with our d***s in our hands as we’re about to enter our 8th season without a league title

  • May 27, 2021
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    Marble

    Get some good players in, at least 3 players that will definitely make our starting XI better. If Ole doesn’t perform after that, we got to get rid of him. Not now yet tho, a lot of ppl completely forgot we got exactly zero of the players Ole wanted last summer, he wasn’t supported at all by the board, I think Us getting second place was the highest league position we could get after that atrocious transfer window/start of the season.

    Let’s be real — if we get his ideal 3 players (lets say for arguments sake it’s Varane, Rice, Sancho) — do you honestly expect Ole to challenge for the title? Like seriously challenge?

    Henderson
    Wan Bissaka — Varane — Maguire — Shaw
    Rice — Pogba/McTominay
    Sancho — Bruno — Rashford
    Cavani

    I honestly don’t. I think he’d get comfortable top four but I don’t think he’s fundamentally good enough to get anything better than that. 2 and a half seasons is a good barometer and I don’t think he’s shown enough in that timeframe.

  • May 27, 2021
    Grenouille

    Let’s be real — if we get his ideal 3 players (lets say for arguments sake it’s Varane, Rice, Sancho) — do you honestly expect Ole to challenge for the title? Like seriously challenge?

    Henderson
    Wan Bissaka — Varane — Maguire — Shaw
    Rice — Pogba/McTominay
    Sancho — Bruno — Rashford
    Cavani

    I honestly don’t. I think he’d get comfortable top four but I don’t think he’s fundamentally good enough to get anything better than that. 2 and a half seasons is a good barometer and I don’t think he’s shown enough in that timeframe.

    I hate to say it but we are hundred procent reliant on how good City will be for the coming seasons. Don’t think any other team will really compete with them if they get players like Kane in this summer.

  • May 27, 2021

    i would be so much happier if tuchel was our manager. i could actually believe in him

  • May 27, 2021
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    DREE

    You have to wonder what our away record will look like next season with fans back as well. I highly doubt it will be as good as this years.

    Well before lockdown happened and more particularly before Bruno came Ole looked out of his depth and was on the verge of getting sacked. Some will say get him the players this summer, then again under LVG, Mou and Moyes they didn’t get there main targets. Mou and LVG achieved more with a lesser talented squad then we have currently.

    But forget the past, right now I just don’t see it in Ole, I appreciate his man management in bringing harmony into the dressing room etc. But we are not a charity. This whole club needs to be ruthless, we are now soft as a club. From top to bottom. Right now the best solution is to get rid of all these ex United players and this coaching system. Get a competent coach who knows what he’s doing.

  • May 27, 2021

    John Murtough (Woody mate) and Fletcher and this Arnold (Woody mate) fella taking over Woodward. This club is f***ed, living in the past, f*** sake and this is meant to be ā€˜progression’

  • Ole’s managerial contract ends June 2022. If they don’t sack him this summer, do you think they’ll sack him during next season? I don’t see it tbh

    I’m sure this loss hurts but I still see United finishing 2nd place next season tbh (perhaps even winning the league).

    • Liverpool: I don’t see them reaching their peak of 2019/20 season again. They’ll also be very careful with being Virgil back into the team.
    • Chelsea: I rate United over Chelsea to finish higher in the league.
    • Arsenal & Spurs: lmao

    City will be the only league contenders next season. However, if they get Kane this summer, then it’s game over for everyone else in the league ffs

  • May 27, 2021
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    Root

    Well before lockdown happened and more particularly before Bruno came Ole looked out of his depth and was on the verge of getting sacked. Some will say get him the players this summer, then again under LVG, Mou and Moyes they didn’t get there main targets. Mou and LVG achieved more with a lesser talented squad then we have currently.

    But forget the past, right now I just don’t see it in Ole, I appreciate his man management in bringing harmony into the dressing room etc. But we are not a charity. This whole club needs to be ruthless, we are now soft as a club. From top to bottom. Right now the best solution is to get rid of all these ex United players and this coaching system. Get a competent coach who knows what he’s doing.

    at this point, who though?

    conte is a good manager. but not sure he would fit and we may have to cause more upheaval in the squad to change to 3 at the back.

  • May 27, 2021
    DREE

    at this point, who though?

    conte is a good manager. but not sure he would fit and we may have to cause more upheaval in the squad to change to 3 at the back.

    I know Dree, Conte as much as I like him as a coach he wouldn’t last at United given he falls out with the board if they don’t proper back him. Allegri going back to Juve. Zidane wouldn’t like working under this board and he doesn’t seem like the guy who wants to manage United more the France NT or a Juventus etc.

    So we’re stuck with Ole really. Maybe a Ten Hagg or a Poch I don’t know seriously mate. Any one of those coaches would do a better job than what Ole doing. Think we’re just stuck with him we will keep on living in the past and this sentiment mentality for years to come.

  • May 27, 2021
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    Root

    Well before lockdown happened and more particularly before Bruno came Ole looked out of his depth and was on the verge of getting sacked. Some will say get him the players this summer, then again under LVG, Mou and Moyes they didn’t get there main targets. Mou and LVG achieved more with a lesser talented squad then we have currently.

    But forget the past, right now I just don’t see it in Ole, I appreciate his man management in bringing harmony into the dressing room etc. But we are not a charity. This whole club needs to be ruthless, we are now soft as a club. From top to bottom. Right now the best solution is to get rid of all these ex United players and this coaching system. Get a competent coach who knows what he’s doing.

    There was an interview a little while back with Sky where Ole very candidly admitted that the tactical side of things wasn't his department. He said something like 'I'm leagues behind Klopp'. And that training was left to 3 people: McKenna, Carrick and Pert (fitness).

    He is clearly an apt man manger, as he also said in that interview. Culturally, by and large, we have absolutely returned to the way we should be. Things are harmonious, we are signing the right characters, we are focusing more on our youth and domestic talent. We have shown a desire to play fast, attractive, attacking football under him, although nowhere near consistently enough or executed well enough.

    I'm fine with Ole staying BUT only if right now he can recognise and act on the tactical side of things. That's where he needs to be ruthless rn. Signing players is all well and good but without the right game plans and tactics they'll always falter. Sir Alex was never that great of a tactician. He knew how to delegate and to trust his staff. And brought in Meulensteen and Queiroz for that side of things. Ole must be prepared to do the same asap. McKenna and Carrick are not good enough to be drilling these players. We saw it yesterday once again. Inability to break teams down when they set up to defend. An inability to defend set pieces. And poor game management. These errors are not fixed with just new players alone.

    I've said it all season and been very sceptical of getting too ahead of ourselves anytime there's been a slight uptick in form. This team is not as good as some of us here like to think they are. We've papered over the cracks. They rely on individuals and luck. It ain't enough and we can very easily find ourselves f***ed next season if we don't address it. Chelsea and Liverpool are gonna be far more resurgent. And the timing of the Euros is not helping us.

    Pressure also needs to be applied to invest in the infrastructure of this club. Its a damn shame our facilities have slipped so much that former players would rather put their kids to train at City than us. And the stuff regarding Murtough and Stoney and Butt is definitely worrisome.

  • May 27, 2021
    DwindlingSun

    There was an interview a little while back with Sky where Ole very candidly admitted that the tactical side of things wasn't his department. He said something like 'I'm leagues behind Klopp'. And that training was left to 3 people: McKenna, Carrick and Pert (fitness).

    He is clearly an apt man manger, as he also said in that interview. Culturally, by and large, we have absolutely returned to the way we should be. Things are harmonious, we are signing the right characters, we are focusing more on our youth and domestic talent. We have shown a desire to play fast, attractive, attacking football under him, although nowhere near consistently enough or executed well enough.

    I'm fine with Ole staying BUT only if right now he can recognise and act on the tactical side of things. That's where he needs to be ruthless rn. Signing players is all well and good but without the right game plans and tactics they'll always falter. Sir Alex was never that great of a tactician. He knew how to delegate and to trust his staff. And brought in Meulensteen and Queiroz for that side of things. Ole must be prepared to do the same asap. McKenna and Carrick are not good enough to be drilling these players. We saw it yesterday once again. Inability to break teams down when they set up to defend. An inability to defend set pieces. And poor game management. These errors are not fixed with just new players alone.

    I've said it all season and been very sceptical of getting too ahead of ourselves anytime there's been a slight uptick in form. This team is not as good as some of us here like to think they are. We've papered over the cracks. They rely on individuals and luck. It ain't enough and we can very easily find ourselves f***ed next season if we don't address it. Chelsea and Liverpool are gonna be far more resurgent. And the timing of the Euros is not helping us.

    Pressure also needs to be applied to invest in the infrastructure of this club. Its a damn shame our facilities have slipped so much that former players would rather put their kids to train at City than us. And the stuff regarding Murtough and Stoney and Butt is definitely worrisome.

    I hear you completely, I just don’t think Ole will realise he needs to change his coaching or switch up his approach. This all we are going to get from him. I don’t see it getting any better, he’s happy with his current coaches and there tactical approach.

    Otherwise we would’ve seen it by now. It’s like the Big Shaq meme ā€œI don’t think you have the facilities for this big manā€

    He’s reached his ceiling, he’s overachieved really. I just don’t see this getting any better

  • May 27, 2021
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    What’s going on with Poch at PSG? Why is he leaving so soon to go back to Spurs what’s up with that?

  • May 27, 2021
    DEL_DVYg

    What’s going on with Poch at PSG? Why is he leaving so soon to go back to Spurs what’s up with that?

    Proper madness that is apparently rumours are circulating he’s unhappy with the PSG board and they’ve signed a player without his permission
    I honestly don’t believe it why go back to a club where you weren’t happy not being backed enough by the Spurs board. It doesn’t make sense to me

  • May 27, 2021
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    DwindlingSun

    There was an interview a little while back with Sky where Ole very candidly admitted that the tactical side of things wasn't his department. He said something like 'I'm leagues behind Klopp'. And that training was left to 3 people: McKenna, Carrick and Pert (fitness).

    He is clearly an apt man manger, as he also said in that interview. Culturally, by and large, we have absolutely returned to the way we should be. Things are harmonious, we are signing the right characters, we are focusing more on our youth and domestic talent. We have shown a desire to play fast, attractive, attacking football under him, although nowhere near consistently enough or executed well enough.

    I'm fine with Ole staying BUT only if right now he can recognise and act on the tactical side of things. That's where he needs to be ruthless rn. Signing players is all well and good but without the right game plans and tactics they'll always falter. Sir Alex was never that great of a tactician. He knew how to delegate and to trust his staff. And brought in Meulensteen and Queiroz for that side of things. Ole must be prepared to do the same asap. McKenna and Carrick are not good enough to be drilling these players. We saw it yesterday once again. Inability to break teams down when they set up to defend. An inability to defend set pieces. And poor game management. These errors are not fixed with just new players alone.

    I've said it all season and been very sceptical of getting too ahead of ourselves anytime there's been a slight uptick in form. This team is not as good as some of us here like to think they are. We've papered over the cracks. They rely on individuals and luck. It ain't enough and we can very easily find ourselves f***ed next season if we don't address it. Chelsea and Liverpool are gonna be far more resurgent. And the timing of the Euros is not helping us.

    Pressure also needs to be applied to invest in the infrastructure of this club. Its a damn shame our facilities have slipped so much that former players would rather put their kids to train at City than us. And the stuff regarding Murtough and Stoney and Butt is definitely worrisome.

    Can I get the link to that sky interview please?

  • May 27, 2021
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    I thought Woodward was leaving? And he’s making decisions that could have long term implications for the club

  • May 27, 2021
    DwindlingSun

    There was an interview a little while back with Sky where Ole very candidly admitted that the tactical side of things wasn't his department. He said something like 'I'm leagues behind Klopp'. And that training was left to 3 people: McKenna, Carrick and Pert (fitness).

    He is clearly an apt man manger, as he also said in that interview. Culturally, by and large, we have absolutely returned to the way we should be. Things are harmonious, we are signing the right characters, we are focusing more on our youth and domestic talent. We have shown a desire to play fast, attractive, attacking football under him, although nowhere near consistently enough or executed well enough.

    I'm fine with Ole staying BUT only if right now he can recognise and act on the tactical side of things. That's where he needs to be ruthless rn. Signing players is all well and good but without the right game plans and tactics they'll always falter. Sir Alex was never that great of a tactician. He knew how to delegate and to trust his staff. And brought in Meulensteen and Queiroz for that side of things. Ole must be prepared to do the same asap. McKenna and Carrick are not good enough to be drilling these players. We saw it yesterday once again. Inability to break teams down when they set up to defend. An inability to defend set pieces. And poor game management. These errors are not fixed with just new players alone.

    I've said it all season and been very sceptical of getting too ahead of ourselves anytime there's been a slight uptick in form. This team is not as good as some of us here like to think they are. We've papered over the cracks. They rely on individuals and luck. It ain't enough and we can very easily find ourselves f***ed next season if we don't address it. Chelsea and Liverpool are gonna be far more resurgent. And the timing of the Euros is not helping us.

    Pressure also needs to be applied to invest in the infrastructure of this club. Its a damn shame our facilities have slipped so much that former players would rather put their kids to train at City than us. And the stuff regarding Murtough and Stoney and Butt is definitely worrisome.

    Good post

  • May 27, 2021
    Root
    https://twitter.com/telefootball/status/1397937648006799373

    I thought Woodward was leaving? And he’s making decisions that could have long term implications for the club

    https://twitter.com/duncancastles/status/1397677814338359296

    Lmao

  • May 27, 2021
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    New contract otw

    Ole at the wheel

  • May 27, 2021
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    Can I get the link to that sky interview please?

    skysports.com/football/news/11667/12283931/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-interview-man-utd-boss-on-super-league-fiasco-and-his-man-management-secrets

    Weird, I have a very vivid image of that Klopp line but it doesnt seem to be there.

    But yeah what im referring to is essentially this paragraph:

    "I've never hidden the fact that I've got coaches who are better than me on the pitch. The main chunks of the sessions, that's Kieran McKenna, Michael Carrick, Martyn Pert and Darren Fletcher. They do them.

    But man-management is my passion. I've got other skills, of course, but you've got to look at what other people can bring to the table that you can't."

  • May 27, 2021
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    New contract otw

    Ole at the wheel

    Glazers struck gold with this one. Only manager to not win a trophy post-SAF and he’s getting another 3 years

  • May 27, 2021
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    Grenouille

    Glazers struck gold with this one. Only manager to not win a trophy post-SAF and he’s getting another 3 years

    I'm okay with a few season without trophies as long as it's building towards something, which it obviously is.

    Big picture lads