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TFTMQ "Everything is Delayed" Edition

Hello True-be-leakers!

Welcome back to another edition of our Tales from the Mod Queue! Today we got a lot of exciting info to share with you. All the details on this post come directly from many of our trusted sources, and some sources that are unverified! Let's get started!

Trusted Sources

Armor Wars

• James Spader is coming back as Ultron in Armor Wars

Secret Invasion

• It is coming after April most likely

Secret Wars

• 2028 is the end of the saga, the end of the 7th Phase. If they are splitting the final Avengers movie into two parts then at least the second movie will be in 2028.
  Echo

• No reshoots are planned at the moment to our sources knowledge

X-Men '97

• The show is aiming for the September-October release, near the anniversary of the original show.

Unverified Sources

Delays Galore

• The slate is nothing like we saw at SDCC
• They want longer gaps, quality over quantity, but due to how they tell stories, there can't be too many big gaps, but the aim is to try not having main universe shows overlapping with movies, about a month (give or take) between shows and even some specials will be treated as movies in terms of overlap, and they're actively working to help fix the VFX artists problem, hiring more to spread the work load more kindly and filming earlier when possible to extend deadlines, basically, they want to make a better environment for cast and crew as well as fans.
• X-Men 97 is happening this year, unsure when

New Slate (very much tentative):

Phase 5

• Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumainia (Released)
• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - 5th May 2023
• Secret Invasion - May 17th- June 21st 2023 -Delayed from March to give audiences a bigger break
• Loki Season 2 - July 26th-August 30th 2023 - Source later stated that Loki has been delayed to start in late August, this could very well have a knock on effect and delay other shows by a month or 2
• Echo - October 2023 - Swapped with Ironheart's original slot and brought up from early 2024
• Mephisto - Halloween Season 2023 (Special) - Will be shot with Agatha
• The Marvels - November 10th 2023
• Sentry - Holidays 2023 (Special) - Will be shot with Thunderbolts, specials at holiday time won't always be holiday themed
• Ironheart - Early 2024- Brought up to give Daredevil and Wonder Man time to not overlap with other projects
• Daredevil: Born Again - Spring 2024 - Brought up to not overlap with Thunderbolts
• Captain America: New World Order - May 3rd 2024
• I Am Groot - Mid 2024 (Shorts)
• Thunderbolts - July 26th 2024
• Deadpool 3 - September 6th 2024 - Brought up because it'll be ready before Blade
• Wonder Man - Fall 2024- Delayed to not overlap with Deadpool, brought up from past delayed date to not overlap with Blade
• Man-Thing - Halloween 2024 (Special)

Phase 6:

• Blade - November 8th 2024 - After multiple delays, this is it's firm slot
• Silver Surfer - Holiday 2024 (Special)
• Agatha: Coven of Chaos - Late 2024/Early 2025- Delayed to priorities other shows
• Fantastic Four - February 14th 2025
• Vision Quest - Spring 2025
• Armor Wars - May 2nd 2025 (Film) - Brought up after being changed to a film to fill an empty slot since it'll be ready
• What If...? Season 2- Mid 2025 - Giant delay but only place it'll fit (This is a Guess)
• Young Avengers - 25th July 2025 (Film)
• Midnight Angels - Fall 2025 (Show)
• Ghost Rider - Halloween 2025 (Special)
• Zombies - October 2025- Delayed to give Wonder Man room
• Shang-Chi 2 - November 7th 2025
• Nova - Holiday 2025 (Special) (Guess as it's before Kang Dynasty)
• Spider-Man 4 - December 19th 2025 (Film) - Delayed to not overlap with Thunderbolts and due to schedules won't be ready for this spot the year earlier
• Strange Academy - Late 2025/Early 2026 (Show)
• Doctor Strange 3 - 13th February 2026 (Film) - Brought up to be before Kang Dynasty
• Ms. Marvel - Spring 2026 (Show) (Guess since it's before Kang Dynasty)
• Avengers: The Kang Dynasty - 1st May 2026 (Film) - Delayed to have set up before

Phase 7 - Created as a Battleworld saga, not everything will be though:

• Moon Knight Season 2- Mid 2026
• Midnight Suns - 24th July 2026 (Film)
• She-Hulk Season 2- Fall 2026 (Guess as it's before WWH)
• Untitled Halloween Special - Halloween 2026 (Special) (Guess, it's not locked in but they really want to continue Halloween specials, I'd guess (HEAVY GRAIN OF SALT) it could be Black Knight because of Midnight Suns and Eternals)
• World War Hulk - November 6th 2026 (Film) - Changed from a show to accommodate budget and will have rights back by then
• Untitled Holiday Special - Holiday 2026 (Guess but no idea what it could be, but guess because they wanna do holiday specials but not as much as Halloween, if there's no good ideas I doubt it'll happen)
• What If...? Season 3- Early 2027 - If the third season even happens, it'll probably end up here
• Eternals 2 - February 12th 2027 (Film)
• Illuminati - Spring 2027 (Show)
• Avengers: Secret Wars - May 7th 2027 (Possibly 2028) - Delayed for set up as well as production delays
• Avengers: Forever - July 30th 2027 (Film) (Secret Wars could be split into 2 parts but it's 50/50 now, if it does happen it'll be no projects between the two, and Forever will be more focused on being a last hurrah for Infinity Saga characters and more accurate to the 2015 Secret Wars by being character driven not "I KNOW THAT CHARACTER!" driven, not that that's all Secret Wars will be, but again don't be shocked if this one doesn't happen) [Mod note: We have also heard this titled Avengers: Eternity Wars and if Secret Wars is split up we believe this move could culminate on he 20th anniversary of the MCU]

Nomad

• This project is focused on bringing back Chris Evans to Marvel Studios. He will be protagonist.

• Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow is also set to return here, both her and Chris Evans will produce this series, as well, be the main stars.

• Script and cast is under wraps. They are set to start filming in early 2024.
• They still want to make the project where Captain America returns the infinity stones to their place in time. This is the series where we will see that adventure.

• It’s multiversal, we will see different timelines and alternate version of the characters (Steve and Natasha).

• They will bring new photography directors, which means they will change the visual style and cinematic image of the standards they’ve been using trough the MCU. Just like they are searching for HBO visioners for Secret Invasion reshoots because of their good cinematographic eye, they might continue this for future projects.

• The story is set to be more serious and mature, with less jokes and childish attitudes, they want to experiment with these styles. If this is accepted, they might adopt this for the future MCU shows or films.

Echo

• There is a scene involving a Native American pageant of some kind. They filmed multiple different takes with a girl both winning and losing at the end of the pageant.

MCU FUTURE

• A Scarlet Witch film, a Namor special, a Monica Rambeau series are ideas floated to happen after Secret Wars, plus a Deadpool 4. * Marvel recognizes no one will want to jump in after Secret Wars because the hours of content could jump into multiple hundreds, especially by canonizing things like the SSU, TASM, FoXMen, Netflix, Hulu and ABC shows and a bunch of past projects so the plan is to (after Secret Wars) do a similar thing to comics Ultimate universe, basically a fresh start universe running alongside the main one to try get new viewers, and it'll have less content then the MCU to use it as a permanent jumping on point as the plan is for the MCU to one day end.
• By the end of phase 7 or 8, no characters (at least major ones) from the Infinity Saga will be left, with the Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars being their massive last hurrah, and the ones that remain for phase 8 will be gone by the end, or at least sidelined similar to Steve Rogers in Endgame with the chance of maybe coming back for the finale, and that's not a guess, that's Marvel's intention.
• Freshman Year is not cancelled
• Source agrees with The Cosmic Circus that the final matchup explored leading into the next Avengers films will be pitting Doctor Strange vs. Kang.

jesus christ

thats the date they shouldve announced from the start anyway

damn this is a crazy one

Ahhhh 20th anniversary of Marvel Studios would make sense

That’s what they did w Infinity War for the 10th anniversary

some of the VFX stuff i feel like should be verifiable. they are either hiring or not, should be able to find listings on linekdin/indeed/etc for disney / marvel

That Chris Evans one sounds fake but who knows

lowkey doesnt make sense to have more projects on the slate when feige said they slowing down

You wouldn't because it would just be Weta/ILM/DNEG (the vfx house) and would not list the company or project they're contracted for

Their NDAs are pretty tight

That is still stacked as f***

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I would largely ignore that slate because for 1 it says unverified and 2 the reasoning is just like "shit, gotta come out sometime "

But the Secret Wars thing being split just feels like a lock at this point imo

And an ultimate mcu universe would be

Umm so when do we get X-Men?

2028

Damn they want to do x-men AFTER secret wars? Figured they want them before like FF

Feels like they think they owe the Fox-verse a proper send-off (idk why)

But I guess it makes sense to do X-Men in a post mainline avengers world from a narrative standpoint.

Yeah im out

Sucks that we couldn’t see them all together in one universe

Secret Wars without X-Men sounds crazy.

This. I want Avengers and X-Men to co-exist lol

The Fox send off is just so weird to me but I guess there’s money to be made so Marvel gon milk it

It almost doesn’t seem right…. Like at all

theyre 100% gonna be in it

I’d rather secret wars be delayed and they build out x-men a bit prior to, so they’re included in Secret Wars. But if Marvel is looking to keep going after Secret War ends, then saving X-Men makes sense

Just thinking about the waiting for 5-6+ years for x-men makes me go crazy

Getting a sentry special this year is cool . Wonder when they’ll announce that

That's WAY TOO MUCH S***, the secret wars insane delay and split into 2 movies sounds bs, and the Chris Evans s*** pushed this into fanfic territory