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    With absolutely nothing to do at work today, I present

    I can't leave my desk so it is what it is

    It flows in and out of the sacred timeline and incorporates all theatrically released Marvel films and the Television spin-offs in a chronological and release order

    Only left episode breaks for Agents of SHIELD because of how that show is impacted by the early MCU, other shows I have just full seasons to watch. If there are no seasons listed under the title, then watch the entire thing

    There's no real multiverse shenanigans until after Loki

    Thinking now, why did I do this

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    mjpplus

    There’s also this

    https://twitter.com/fandomwire/status/1742909145928626355

    He’s the guy who now runs TV and animation at Marvel Studios

    i'm somebody that doesn't have an issue with whatever content is considered canon i'm just looking for some kind of PROFESSIONAL organization to the UNIVERSE that Marvel Studios created as their highest grossing franchise ever

    both Avengers and the Marvel Cinematic Universe franchises need to be protected if not by quality films EVERY time then with a perfect or near-perfectly organized canon

  • Jan 5, 2024

    the Netflix shows had SO much happening in NYC

    while the Avengers tower was just looming above and Spider-Man was going to class?

  • Jan 5, 2024
    mjpplus

    With absolutely nothing to do at work today, I present

    I can't leave my desk so it is what it is

    It flows in and out of the sacred timeline and incorporates all theatrically released Marvel films and the Television spin-offs in a chronological and release order

    Only left episode breaks for Agents of SHIELD because of how that show is impacted by the early MCU, other shows I have just full seasons to watch. If there are no seasons listed under the title, then watch the entire thing

    There's no real multiverse shenanigans until after Loki

    Thinking now, why did I do this

    once the Multiverse Saga ends for the 3rd Saga in the MCU this entire list's inclusion of Netflix, Fox, Sony, etc will become irrelevant

  • Jan 5, 2024
    KING SPAWN

    i'm somebody that doesn't have an issue with whatever content is considered canon i'm just looking for some kind of PROFESSIONAL organization to the UNIVERSE that Marvel Studios created as their highest grossing franchise ever

    both Avengers and the Marvel Cinematic Universe franchises need to be protected if not by quality films EVERY time then with a perfect or near-perfectly organized canon

    Initially, from the onset of Agents of Shield, all the TV shows were intended to be canon parts of the MCU. This is evidenced by cameos from some of the stars from the films in the first couple of seasons.

    The show also responded to events that happened in the MCU films.

    It even sets things up, like the person who sent the Avengers after Strucker in Age of Ultron was Coulson:

    Agent Carter becomes the second MCU TV show shortly after that and once again stars people reprising their roles from the films. The first episode even opens with some of the final moments from the first Captain America. That show is also created by Marcus & McFeeley and is produced by Kevin Feige.

    Now as for Netflix, those shows also considered the events of the films to be part of their world. Why is Kingpin able to rise to power in Daredevil? Because the events of the first Avengers film destroyed Hell's Kitchen.

    In reality, Marvel Studios did not have control over those ABC/Netflix characters. Marvel Television used story beats from the films to incorporate their shows into the wider universe.

    This whole part of Jessica Jones uses the fallout of The Avengers as motivation for the villains:

    Both sides still communicated to each other as to what they were doing and what characters were in use. Marvel Studios has even denied the use of certain characters in Marvel Television shows, an example being the AOS team wanted to use MODOK and Marvel Studios said no.

    Now we hit an inflection point of 2015, where Feige is close to walking out because he was under Ike Perlmutter at Marvel Entertainment and Ike kept pushing beck on things that Feige wanted to do. In order to keep Feige at Marvel, Bob Iger went and spun Marvel Studios off into it's own Studio. Marvel Television, run by Jeph Loeb, still was under Marvel Entertainment. As MS started going on their own path, MT was less in the loop of what was going on and started doing their own thing. Marvel Studios had no say over what Television characters could do and not do at this point. Now outside of a couple of things here and there, almost nothing that Marvel TV made in live action up to that point contradicted anything that happened in the MCU films. Anything that did, was minor.

    This is also where Agents of Shield diverged and did things that may have contradicted Infinity War/Endgame. But even then, the AOS team made sure to stick with the visual style of the films. Shield's explanation as to why they didn't know about the snap? They were in a different timeline. Simple as that.

    Even so, Feige still confirmed that the Marvel TV/Netflix shows existed in the same world as the films:

    Why do you think the guy who played Jarvis in Agent Carter appeared as Jarvis in Endgame?

    For the point of "Why didn't the Avengers help?" In the comics, why didn't Iron Man help Spider-Man fight the Green Goblin in 1971 and save Gwen from dying? Because in universe they could've been handling different things. In reality, it came down to character control.

    Jump to October 2019, Feige is named the Chief Creative Officer for all of Marvel Entertainment. This included film, TV, comics, and animation. One of the first things he did was move all film, TV, and animated production under the Marvel Studios banner. Before this time is when Disney began developing Disney+ and Bob Iger directed Marvel STUDIOS, not Marvel Television, to create content for the service.

    Where we are now, contracts are up and Marvel Studios can do whatever it wants with the majority of Marvel characters (aside from the 9,000 that Sony controls). They can go back and reference the Netflix and ABC shows if they want to. Or they can ignore them. Which is why now people and marketing from Marvel are coming out and explicitly saying that the Daredevil Netflix show is canon to the Sacred Timeline.

    Comics have retcons all the time, I would expect a cinematic universe that has been going on in multiple mediums for over 15 years to do the same. As for the last point about the other shows/movies not mattering after Secret Wars: Of course they won't. Marvel is rebooting anyway.

  • Jan 5, 2024

    TLDR it really doesn't matter but at the same time it still works as canon lmao

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    I know a lot of people shared the sentiment it should’ve been a show but honestly i’m glad it was a movie instead cause the visuals wouldn’t have been as good at all being stuck as a Disney+ show

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    Rewatching some Marvel stuff and man the Daredevil hallway scene in She Hulk is dope

    I still hate the yellow in that suit tho. Glad it’s gone.

    Watched Kingpin in Hawkeye too

    Echo gonna go hard

  • Jan 6, 2024
    PAINMAN
    https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1743166812374921626

    I know a lot of people shared the sentiment it should’ve been a show but honestly i’m glad it was a movie instead cause the visuals wouldn’t have been as good at all being stuck as a Disney+ show

    I mean given how hit or miss MCU shows are, it had just as much of a chance of failing or being a success being made into a movie

  • Jan 6, 2024
    mjpplus

    There’s also this

    https://twitter.com/fandomwire/status/1742909145928626355

    He’s the guy who now runs TV and animation at Marvel Studios

    So wait, then does that mean everything else is as well?

    Like The Defenders? & so their new MCU show is a continuation of the Netflix show?

  • Jan 6, 2024

    Alright they won me over…this poster is hard as f***

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    mjpplus

    There’s also this

    https://twitter.com/fandomwire/status/1742909145928626355

    He’s the guy who now runs TV and animation at Marvel Studios

    That tweet makes it seem like it’s a sure thing..100% confirmed

    But in the actual clip he says He personally believes so

    So yeah not really confirming it lol

    I’m fine with what they’ve said in the past…technically canon because of the multiverse…took place on different timelines…not 616

    If we try and make everything part of the sacred timeline…there would be way too many continuity errors lmao

  • Jan 6, 2024
    Yeezydawg

    That tweet makes it seem like it’s a sure thing..100% confirmed

    But in the actual clip he says He personally believes so

    So yeah not really confirming it lol

    I’m fine with what they’ve said in the past…technically canon because of the multiverse…took place on different timelines…not 616

    If we try and make everything part of the sacred timeline…there would be way too many continuity errors lmao

    https://twitter.com/ddevilupdates/status/1742556155711279186

    How would there be too many continuity errors though?

    It can’t be the double castings because Marvel Studios has done that within their own properties (Gemma Chan), if it’s things happening in some of these shows in 2020 (during the blip), there’s an explanation for SHIELD and the other shows. For SHIELD they did go into an alternate timeline at the end of Season 5 and presumably at the end of Season 7 they return to the sacred timeline. Therefore they’re unaffected by the blip. Every other show can be assumed that their stories end before Infinity War happens.

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    This would’ve been a fun one

  • Jan 6, 2024

    Need Iron Man to comeback during Secret Wars & see all the new s*** that’s been going down with all these new heroes

    DD & Iron Man need a convo, same with Wolverine & Tobey Spider-Man

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    This would’ve been a fun one

    https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1743754814628970697

    cool concept but 90% of the conflict comes from Tony’s ptsd and being suitless so it’d be a quick one

  • Jan 7, 2024
    PAINMAN

    cool concept but 90% of the conflict comes from Tony’s ptsd and being suitless so it’d be a quick one

    Lmao they probably realized how small scale it all was as soon as they sat down to write the episode and scrapped the idea

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    PAINMAN
    https://twitter.com/popbase/status/1743166812374921626

    I know a lot of people shared the sentiment it should’ve been a show but honestly i’m glad it was a movie instead cause the visuals wouldn’t have been as good at all being stuck as a Disney+ show

    Who are all these people

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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Who are all these people

    I’m guessing you didn’t watch Eternals?

  • Jan 8, 2024
    SUPER BOWL SOSS

    Rewatching some Marvel stuff and man the Daredevil hallway scene in She Hulk is dope

    I still hate the yellow in that suit tho. Glad it’s gone.

    Watched Kingpin in Hawkeye too

    Echo gonna go hard

    Huh?? Kingpin and DD were AWFUL compared to the netflix shows. They embarassed both characters