I agreed that they are.

But recognization does not mean audiences still care about the character.

I will ask again, is Scooby-Doo more popular than the MCU?

Like what we doing here

I could show my grandma a photo of Superman

What you doing here fam

Deadpool outcrossed a lot of the solo movies because a lot of the Superman movies are notoriously bad and have terrible word of mouth compared to Deadpool who doesn’t have as high a bar to clear in terms of quality.

Not to mention Ryan Reynolds been a popular fan cast for Deadpool since like 2007.
You can’t even name 5 movies this new Superman actor has been in cuz he’s so new lol

Recognization alone does not mean audiences still care about the character on a mass level.

I’m not saying Superman has a cult base audience

It’s yall clapping like seals paying 3k to see them day rdj is back

You think Superman is meaningless because Snyder movies trash ? Do you know how many kids forever look up to Superman ?

I think it's different circumstances. Deadpool and Wolverine is basically a nostalgia cameo fest and alot of people love the Fox X-Men films warts and all.

Superman is basically trying to revive a damaged DC brand due to years of studio incompetence. James Gunn and Co have to gave the audience trust back

If the character is as well-renowned as you’re claiming, the actor playing him does not matter. Nowadays audiences go to movies to see characters they love, not movie stars. Those days are long gone.

Actors don’t sell movies anymore, IP does

Superman is Superman man stop it

Sure but then you look at the first two Deadpools and realize they also outgrossed every solo Superman film ever

This also isn’t true lol many thought the Batman sounded too long so didn’t go even with great reviews

Outgrossed outgrossed

Nigga people watch films outside of theaters now

Stop it man

The Batman did $771 million. For a 3-hour movie, that’s pretty respectable

Superman is very tricky. DC and WB spent years trying to make him more realistic and grounded because they think he's too corny and boring for the 21st century audiences.

Then flash forward to now he's finally wearing those goofy trunks again.

It's crazy Deadpool is an easier sell to audiences than Superman now

You think wb again my parent company isn’t about to go crazy promoting Superman ?

You have been using box office to make your arguments for the past 24 hours, and now all of a sudden it doesn’t matter

You were just saying yesterday the MCU has been flopping at the box office since the pandemic

Ok but you’re putting a fresh new Superman movie that’s not even out yet against an established trilogy banking off 2 decades of nostalgia.

We don’t even know how this new Superman is gonna be received critically let alone commercially cuz Gunn is legit starting from scratch

They will. I’m just saying it won’t lead to the movie making a billion dollars because audiences don’t care about Superman like that right now.

If it’s great, the sequel will hit a billion

I have not been using box office man I don’t care about box office I only mention it in terms of budget if s*** flops

Disney marvel already underpays these people and people get laid off so what you can see nightcrawler in imax by yourself ?

The first two Deadpools outgrossed every solo Superman film ever, it’s not just nostalgia.

Deadpool 3 was always gonna clear at least 700 million

Aight you got it x men solos outgrossing this nobody Superman character

Yea the last few Superman movies had bad word of mouth due to their low quality.

People liked the Deadpool movies.

Also if we talking Reeves Superman movies too that’s just silly because movie watching habits were different and cape s*** wasn’t the cash cow back then that it was in the 2010s.

You’re just comparing numbers and not looking at context for things