If 3 was trash, how did it make a billion? I thought y’all said Superman movies don’t sell because they’re bad films?

This “grossed more than every Superman ever” narrative is crazy cuz if niggas wanna go back to 80s movies than we have to adjust for inflation

And you keep bringing up “14 people watch” when it’s literally a successful show amongst the demographics that matter.

Even leaving out that he has been a fixture in media for years over iron man dude

Gonna be interesting to see how the upcoming Superman film is received

The merch for the movie is selling out alone dude

Superman was that guy for a long time, decades even, but right now in big 2024 he is not a more relevant and culturally loved hero than Iron Man is, he’s just not

I’m positive we can look at any MCU movie merch and it would be the same s***. That is such a lame and irrelevant metric

Yea. It’s almost like Iron Man 3 came out after a successful Avengers movie and Justice League 2017 came out after a divisive Bvs movie

he has changed the goal post to that

Movie merch selling out a whole year before the movie comes out shows anticipation for the movie does it not??

you think 3 is a great movie?

Man to man you think it was a great movie?

I'm more interested in how the DC rebrand has the chance to propel them into the space occupied by Marvel rn. Y'all can have the iron man v Superman debate I'm good lol

lol

Why do you keep bringing up different arguments when we talking one thing?

Both of yall are guilty of doing this s*** and it just convolutes everything lol

Y’all said Man of Steel numbers weren’t great because the movie wasn’t great.

If Iron Man 3 wasn’t great, how did it sell a billion?

The real answer here is that the quality of a movie has little effect on its’ box office when we’re talking about summer blockbuster popcorn flicks.

The Fast & Furious franchise has made billions

nah I am asking him. Even when I stayed 100% on one central thing he brought it to "relevant and loved" when this started as which IP itself INCLUDING ALL MEDIA is more well known

a 3rd movie in a large cinematic universe with a cult like fanbase including yoruself who has argued this for multiple days groossed more than the first movie of a universe

Tf is even the main point here

This back and forth is so hard to follow

Yeah it is you literally claimed superman didn't get a solo sequel due to boxoffice

It's kinda scary that just a little bit of context like this is confusing you so much

Momentum can do wonders of a film. Captain Marvel made a Billi partly because of when it was released

he removing all context in all forms and thinks we going for that

Again he 24 this is our future so we doomed

They think it’s 1996 and Superman is still the most relevant comic book character in the planet

Do you think these studios care about how a movie performed critically?

All they see is the bottom line.

If “the most relevant superhero in the world” had a movie that did great at the box office, that sequel is getting greenlit day one. End of story.

Bro the whole “Man Of Steel numbers aren’t great” argument was started from you cuz you made the bench mark for a movie doing great A BILLION dollars

Me @SUPERMAN @WT777 @mjpplus and others have all agreed that MOS doing 600+ million as a stand alone Superman movie after the last one was received so poorly is good numbers especially when comparing them to Batman Begins and Iron Man 1.
Now you comparing the first installment of the DCEU to Iron Man 3 when by the time Iron Man 3 came out the MCU already had the audiences trust due to s*** like Captain America movies and the Avengers a year prior.

This is why we keep saying you’re losing the plot.

If you strictly compare the DCEU Superman movies to the MCU iron man movies you can see that they consistently made more money until DCEU lost the public’s good faith.

That is what we’ve been saying

"Fuck the facts this how things work in my head "

Zack from the 6 goal post moving head ass