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    aaron xx
    • peter in last movie erases himself from everyone's memory
    • by the end of this move mj and peter will be back together

    what even was the point of that? the mcu has no balls to stick through decisions they make. the choices they make have no weight. it's whatever makes the most money at the end of the day, hence the no artistic integrity

    Why are you assuming they’ll be back together? That could happen in 5 or 6?

    The point was to put Peter through the struggle and grief that he’s been dealing with for years after NWH and letting that mold his character. Having her around him again doesn’t erase that, if anything it gives him and the audience more time to sit in the aftermath of his decisions. Them not sticking with it would be if he read her the letter at the diner scene or if they’re selling us a film where he easily gets his life back and BND doesn’t feel like that at all

    I’d also argue having MJ and Ned just dip without exploring how the spell changed their lives is crazy because they forgot Peter not Spider-Man. Its unrealstic that MJ would just move on from that. Thats clearly groundwork for an interesting flip on their story and a new kind of grief for this Peter or any live action version of the character has had to deal with.

  • Swimmer

    Why are you assuming they’ll be back together? That could happen in 5 or 6?

    The point was to put Peter through the struggle and grief that he’s been dealing with for years after NWH and letting that mold his character. Having her around him again doesn’t erase that, if anything it gives him and the audience more time to sit in the aftermath of his decisions. Them not sticking with it would be if he read her the letter at the diner scene or if they’re selling us a film where he easily gets his life back and BND doesn’t feel like that at all

    I’d also argue having MJ and Ned just dip without exploring how the spell changed their lives is crazy because they forgot Peter not Spider-Man. Its unrealstic that MJ would just move on from that. Thats clearly groundwork for an interesting flip on their story and a new kind of grief for this Peter or any live action version of the character has had to deal with.

    idk man i just think tom and zendaya is too lucrative for the mcu not to cash in out in

    i feel like the new movie is gonna end with mj remembering who peter is in some "love transcends time" type s*** and then they'll be back together

  • May 30
    NoFace

    his own characters still appear in the films though, that isnt really gonna make or break the storytelling. let Sony handle all SMU lore. we will never get a MCU Spidey film without the MCU interactions, its legit the whole point of a shared universe

    asking for a film without it seems like screaming into the void lol

    To me punisher shooting people with bullets is going to look a bit wild if not executed well

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    NoFace

    it sounds good but we honestly can have Sony just do that with his own universe, it wouldnt make sense in the MCU lol having him not interact with other characters would defeat the purpose of him being in that universe entirely

    I’m not sure if ppl weren’t around or just forgot how much we wanted Spidey in the MCU from the beginning

  • mjpplus
    https://twitter.com/captaincupkick/status/2060348774954778953

    They look so f***ing good together side by side

    Spidey 5 HAS to be the team up movie man if they don’t do this before Tom and Charlie are done it’s a crime

    Throw in Deadpool and we officially got ourselves a Team Red film

  • May 30
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    Experiment626

    I’m not sure if ppl weren’t around or just forgot how much we wanted Spidey in the MCU from the beginning

    Some of the moves they made are what I feared . The event movies cool but I think it bogs down the solo movies at times. Willing to go into this one open minded with time they got and hope for the best

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    HaroldsChicken

    I get yall perspective I do . But the chance to have the best storytelling of the movies and is his own characters before we are 8 movies in . One movie with more focus on him than jingling keys wouldn’t be the worst

    Weren’t the first 2 almost solely about him? There was a little bit of stuff with Ironman in the first one and some Fury but not actually Fury in the 2nd but that’s about it

  • HaroldsChicken

    Some of the moves they made are what I feared . The event movies cool but I think it bogs down the solo movies at times. Willing to go into this one open minded with time they got and hope for the best

    I definitely see how sometimes the cameos can be a bit jarring but think they have been done within reason for the most part so far

    If anything they kinda dragged the whole Iron Man & Spidey relationship but tbh I appreciate the MCU giving us something we never seen before with the character. I mean in EG we got Spidey riding a Pegasus with the Infinity Gauntlet in hand, some real nerd stuff

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    Dirty

    Weren’t the first 2 almost solely about him? There was a little bit of stuff with Ironman in the first one and some Fury but not actually Fury in the 2nd but that’s about it

    The plots still revolved around iron man not spider man but I get you

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    HaroldsChicken

    The plots still revolved around iron man not spider man but I get you

    I know what you’re saying too and don’t disagree but he has also just been a kid for these movies. Kinda hard to expect his character to have all this deep lore stuff and adult issues and stuff.

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    Dirty

    I know what you’re saying too and don’t disagree but he has also just been a kid for these movies. Kinda hard to expect his character to have all this deep lore stuff and adult issues and stuff.

    As long as we get his full rogue catalog and other friends other than mj Ned I’m good just with every movie that looks less likely

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    HaroldsChicken

    As long as we get his full rogue catalog and other friends other than mj Ned I’m good just with every movie that looks less likely

    I feel like that door will open after Secret Wars tbh

    Sony’s universe will officially be dust and they will (hopefully) have the freedom to adapt whoever going forward

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    HaroldsChicken

    As long as we get his full rogue catalog and other friends other than mj Ned I’m good just with every movie that looks less likely

    Norman Osborn / Iron Patriot and Harry Osborn / American Son soon

  • May 30
    Mr Anderson

    Norman Osborn / Iron Patriot and Harry Osborn / American Son soon

    Mercy

  • May 30
    mjpplus

    I feel like that door will open after Secret Wars tbh

    Sony’s universe will officially be dust and they will (hopefully) have the freedom to adapt whoever going forward

    Yeah I could see that

  • May 30
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    Mfs really complaining about Mary Jane Watson being in a Spider-Man movie

  • They got Lois Lane in that new Superman movie?

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Mfs really complaining about Mary Jane Watson being in a Spider-Man movie

    Spiderman has other love interests

    The black cat dynamic would make a far more interesting movie for example

  • May 30
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    Purrp

    Spiderman has other love interests

    The black cat dynamic would make a far more interesting movie for example

    Even with other potential love interests MJ would probably still be involved in the story

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    Plus Black Cat is usually a Spider-Man love interest not Peter Parker

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Even with other potential love interests MJ would probably still be involved in the story

    usually in a break up capacity or moved on capacity and he simping

    Would again be a solid movie imo

    It don’t always gotta be her man

  • Purrp 🌚
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Plus Black Cat is usually a Spider-Man love interest not Peter Parker

    Which would be another interesting premise for casuals who don’t know the comics. Completely under explored/ utilized dynamic and character

  • Purrp

    usually in a break up capacity or moved on capacity and he simping

    Would again be a solid movie imo

    It don’t always gotta be her man

    He’s gonna be simping for her in this movie. She has a new man

    Doesn’t have to be her but a Spider-Man movie including MJ is nothing to complain about

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    Purrp

    Which would be another interesting premise for casuals who don’t know the comics. Completely under explored/ utilized dynamic and character

    Is it not the same dynamic Batman and Catwoman have?

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    Don’t get me wrong I’m all for Black Cat inclusion but wouldn’t be surprised even with her in the movie MJ would be too