Not good. This movie gave me suicidal ideation. One more monologue of fan fiction lore and philosophy 101 and I wouldn't be here
Y’all gassing it
I said last year Apple should have done waterproof matrix AirPods
I would be in shower living
That's not an interpretation. That's my response to this repulsive, pretentious dogshit.
You can't misinterpret this movie. There is no subtext. It's all supertext. The membrane between theme and plot is gone. Every trope it leans into is apparently excused by that transparency. It's ugly. It's boring. Yuck
if thats your opinion, thats your opinion. but its very possible to misinterpret super text; almost just as easily as subtext. i think its more about effecting neo's belief in himself, he tried to escape the matrix, and the a***yst calls it suicide to control him. but its also more than that its a reference to lana's real life suicide attempt and how she felt like her own success was controlling her. she wanted to escape that. the matrix now is more personal and adaptive and emotional. so to me its a pretty genius move to take one of the lowest personal and emotional moments of your life and then adapt it to the character that you're using to display the same tonal feeling that drove you to that attempt. fwiw i'm a suicide survivor too and personally didnt view it as ideation but thats just me
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ah my bad i thought you meant you were a production guy on the lot.
if thats your opinion, thats your opinion. but its very possible to misinterpret super text; almost just as easily as subtext. i think its more about effecting neo's belief in himself, he tried to escape the matrix, and the a***yst calls it suicide to control him. but its also more than that its a reference to lana's real life suicide attempt and how she felt like her own success was controlling her. she wanted to escape that. the matrix now is more personal and adaptive and emotional. so to me its a pretty genius move to take one of the lowest personal and emotional moments of your life and then adapt it to the character that you're using to display the same tonal feeling that drove you to that attempt. fwiw i'm a suicide survivor too and personally didnt view it as ideation but thats just me
There is no point in interpreting a movie that probably spends an hour painstakingly explaining exactly what it is about to you. Just quote the characters themselves. There are no secrets here.
There is no point in interpreting a movie that probably spends an hour painstakingly explaining exactly what it is about to you. Just quote the characters themselves. There are no secrets here.
you didn't reply to any of my points, but how does it explain what its about? i don't really understand the point that your'e making
This movie had me trippin the first hour I was deadass thinking the matrix was all in his head
that’s how you know a movie captivates you
If all you got from Neo stepping off the ledge was that he was suicidal you missed a lot tbh
It’s okay if it didn’t connect with you or if you didn’t like the meaning but to call it pointless to dissect in a film section dedicated to doing exactly that is pretty disingenuous
Still haven’t seen this yet, but it seems like Toy Story 4 vibes.
Like ok, you’re subversive, cool, whatever. This story already ended tho.
you didn't reply to any of my points, but how does it explain what its about? i don't really understand the point that your'e making
This isn't an argument. You actually preclude arguing when your preamble is "subjectivity is everything". This movie talks about itself enough. Find another fanboy to dissect its vacuous contents with.
There is no point in interpreting a movie that probably spends an hour painstakingly explaining exactly what it is about to you. Just quote the characters themselves. There are no secrets here.
i kind of fear these absolutist positions, because yes this is challenging but ive seen it 3 times and i feel like ive gotten something different from it every time. its just coming from a place that is not a masculine work its about the emotionality of the characters and the tonal feeling of the work rather than granular detail like which is what i think you're using as a metric , but i could be totally wrong
Still haven’t seen this yet, but it seems like Toy Story 4 vibes.
Like ok, you’re subversive, cool, whatever. This story already ended tho.
As much as I enjoyed it I still don’t feel like a sequel was needed. WB was gonna make it irregardless tho for money and I’m glad we got one half of the Wachowskis to do it in that case
This isn't an argument. You actually preclude arguing when your preamble is "subjectivity is everything". This movie talks about itself enough. Find another fanboy to dissect its vacuous contents with.
why did you come to this thread just to say something inflammatory?
i kind of fear these absolutist positions, because yes this is challenging but ive seen it 3 times and i feel like ive gotten something different from it every time. its just coming from a place that is not a masculine work its about the emotionality of the characters and the tonal feeling of the work rather than granular detail like which is what i think you're using as a metric , but i could be totally wrong
its just coming from a place that is not a masculine work its about the emotionality of the characters and the tonal feeling of the work rather than granular detail like which is what i think you're using as a metric , but i could be totally wrong
This movie is hollow. It's Kanye's hologram of Kim's dad. You are being haunted. Please watch an actual piece of art that respects your time and intellect. Or at least treat it as the empty spectacle it is.
idk i just don't really get what his backstory would be
Only if the first 90% of it was his life inside the matrix that led to him waking up
No interest in his years lusting after Niobe and arguing strategy with the commander in the stenches of zion
This isn't an argument. You actually preclude arguing when your preamble is "subjectivity is everything". This movie talks about itself enough. Find another fanboy to dissect its vacuous contents with.
That first half hour of boring meta commentary was pretty much Lana filling time and telling the audience why this movie was made with such a low effort
its just coming from a place that is not a masculine work its about the emotionality of the characters and the tonal feeling of the work rather than granular detail like which is what i think you're using as a metric , but i could be totally wrong
This movie is hollow. It's Kanye's hologram of Kim's dad. You are being haunted. Please watch an actual piece of art that respects your time and intellect. Or at least treat it as the empty spectacle it is.
i saw in the mood for love the other night i thought it was great!
i saw in the mood for love the other night i thought it was great!
classic
That first half hour of boring meta commentary was pretty much Lana filling time and telling the audience why this movie was made with such a low effort
"Hey, I know this is all empty bullshit- we have zombies and stuff and are just going to Ready Player One everything- that makes it okay and smart, right? Me saying that up front?"
i saw in the mood for love the other night i thought it was great!
There’s no point in arguing they’re just gonna say your opinion is trash just because you enjoyed this movie it’s insane how mad people get about it
its just coming from a place that is not a masculine work its about the emotionality of the characters and the tonal feeling of the work rather than granular detail like which is what i think you're using as a metric , but i could be totally wrong
This movie is hollow. It's Kanye's hologram of Kim's dad. You are being haunted. Please watch an actual piece of art that respects your time and intellect. Or at least treat it as the empty spectacle it is.
see im trying to talk to you like a person but you keep condescending to me, and telling me theres nothing there etc etc when youre initial post was that she's talking about suicidal ideation, so that right there is something. and furthermore youve never really elaborated on what they were saying about suicidal ideation just that its there. so im sorry but i don't agree with your arguments and i feel that they are not especially cogent