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  • Dec 29, 2021
    DIKALISM

    You're in a Internet forum where the word cracker is thrown around like its nothing so I don't get what your point is. People are naturally s***.

    try being called the n-word for centuries and being treated worse (even on the internet)

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    and for the record i say this as a "white-passing" dude who has experienced plenty of racism.. simply for being Turkish

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    I'm not protecting anyone, i'm just not rolling with this narrative of yall being this innocent trio

    yall know what yall doing... pushing this new narrative unto Ana being a bully out of nowhere and then acting victim is insincere to how yall came into the thread letting nuts hang

    just state what you don't like about the movie and leave politics and "i'm being called a transphobe for no good reason" out of it and you should be fine... and if you handle criticism better you won't feel like you're being cornered

    I'm not innocent in s***. I like to make jokes too. One thing is making jokes another one, is using sensitive subjects to destroy people. The only time I did that was when I made homeless jokes and I knew I went to far but he pissed me. This dude is out here calling everyone racist, transphobic and saying people deserve death and to die alone.

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    I'm not innocent in s***. I like to make jokes too. One thing is making jokes another one, is using sensitive subjects to destroy people. The only time I did that was when I made homeless jokes and I knew I went to far but he pissed me. This dude is out here calling everyone racist, transphobic and saying people deserve death and to die alone.

    making a transphobic argument =/= "i'm being called a transphobe"

    we're literally observing something you've said which was inconsiderate and not a smart argument... doesn't make you the worst person alive

    what does make it worse is you defending it and acting victim instead of owning up to a poor choice of phrasing or an example you should've kept out... and kept it rolling no biggie

  • Dec 29, 2021
    DIKALISM

    I'm not innocent in s***. I like to make jokes too. One thing is making jokes another one, is using sensitive subjects to destroy people. The only time I did that was when I made homeless jokes and I knew I went to far but he pissed me. This dude is out here calling everyone racist, transphobic and saying people deserve death and to die alone.

    and btw i told Ana about the 4 or 10 people comment too

    not cool, about as bad as anything here

  • Dec 29, 2021

    it's time to relax

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    and for the record i say this as a "white-passing" dude who has experienced plenty of racism.. simply for being Turkish

    Try going up being one of the only white kids in a black hood and see how everyone treats you. Until I finally found my group I got beat up and robbed a lot. And when I finally found my group, I was still the only white kid. And I got arrested and kicked in the head by the police just for hanging out with black kids.

    So there's racism in both sides, even tho its the whites fault. So no I don't agree with victim mentality.

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    making a transphobic argument =/= "i'm being called a transphobe"

    we're literally observing something you've said which was inconsiderate and not a smart argument... doesn't make you the worst person alive

    what does make it worse is you defending it and acting victim instead of owning up to a poor choice of phrasing or an example you should've kept out... and kept it rolling no biggie

    I didn't make any transphobic comment, I said the critics are hypocrites who are afraid of being cancelled. I said the Chapelle comedy special had his bright spots besides the bullshit TERF comments so the rating was politically motivated.

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    Try going up being one of the only white kids in a black hood and see how everyone treats you. Until I finally found my group I got beat up and robbed a lot. And when I finally found my group, I was still the only white kid. And I got arrested and kicked in the head by the police just for hanging out with black kids.

    So there's racism in both sides, even tho its the whites fault. So no I don't agree with victim mentality.

    "even tho it is the whites fault" crucial piece there.. and yeah that sucks to hear you went through all that, nah fr, sad part is the way you're treated is literally how black people are treated as well, so that shows you it's more poverty and bad environments than neighborhoods really... aside from the "white boy" slurs

    and trust me, no matter how good black people or even I behave, we get confronted with that bs.

    it's not a victim mentality when it happens regardless of mentality

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    I didn't make any transphobic comment, I said the critics are hypocrites who are afraid of being cancelled. I said the Chapelle comedy special had his bright spots besides the bullshit TERF comments so the rating was politically motivated.

    in any case, can you accept that this movie is genuinely enjoyed by moviegoers and critics without it having any particular agenda?

    cus this is a very crucial point you're making and it just sounds so contrived to someone who genuinely enjoyed the movie

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    "even tho it is the whites fault" crucial piece there.. and yeah that sucks to hear you went through all that, nah fr, sad part is the way you're treated is literally how black people are treated as well, so that shows you it's more poverty and bad environments than neighborhoods really... aside from the "white boy" slurs

    and trust me, no matter how good black people or even I behave, we get confronted with that bs.

    it's not a victim mentality when it happens regardless of mentality

    but you can't fight racism with more racism, saying every white person is racist is f***ing idiotic, when every person in the world acts judgmentally with other groups

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    in any case, can you accept that this movie is genuinely enjoyed by moviegoers and critics without it having any particular agenda?

    cus this is a very crucial point you're making and it just sounds so contrived to someone who genuinely enjoyed the movie

    i accept this movie can have points that can be enjoyed, I've spent a lot of pages in this thread discussing parts of the movie I enjoyed

    this is still one of worst directed and executed blockbusters I've seen in the past few years, and even when I give it a 5/10 rating I know its bloated because of my love for philosophy and the matrix

    so I still maintain the opinion that the ratings are bloated because of fear of the cancelling twitter community

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    but you can't fight racism with more racism, saying every white person is racist is f***ing idiotic, when every person in the world acts judgmentally with other groups

    i'm not saying white people are more racist now than ever before

    or punish white people cus they are racist, a lot of white people are victims to their own racist mindsets, cus it breeds hatred and inferiority complexes

    i'm saying white people have historically caused us all a severe problem worldwide and we can solve it by calling it out

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    i accept this movie can have points that can be enjoyed, I've spent a lot of pages in this thread discussing parts of the movie I enjoyed

    this is still one of worst directed and executed blockbusters I've seen in the past few years, and even when I give it a 5/10 rating I know its bloated because of my love for philosophy and the matrix

    so I still maintain the opinion that the ratings are bloated because of fear of the cancelling twitter community

    wait that's not what i meant

    like even if you don't agree can you accept that someone else might like its entirety/huge portions that you don't?

    i'm not in the business of telling you what to think and i don't think there's anything wrong with that criticism of the movie, i might not agree completely or enjoy it more than you but that doesn't diminish your opinion

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    i'm not saying white people are more racist now than ever before

    or punish white people cus they are racist, a lot of white people are victims to their own racist mindsets, cus it breeds hatred and inferiority complexes

    i'm saying white people have historically caused us all a severe problem worldwide and we can solve it by calling it out

    and I'll tell you that you won't solve s*** when you try to fight racism with more racism

    another example, I was lucky because I finally found my group and kids in the hood that accepted me, another white kids in the hood didn't, he was a neighbor that I cut off a long time ago because he turned into a racist cop

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DIKALISM

    and I'll tell you that you won't solve s*** when you try to fight racism with more racism

    another example, I was lucky because I finally found my group and kids in the hood that accepted me, another white kids in the hood didn't, he was a neighbor that I cut off a long time ago because he turned into a racist cop

    calling people accurately a racist isn't saying they should be hated... it's stating a fact about a person

    like saying a tree creates oxygen and lava is too hot to touch

    you can go against these observations but that won't change the actual fact that white supremacy is a real thriving phenomenon that ruins people's lives

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    anyway let's not derail the convo, race is not the main topic

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    anyway let's not derail the convo, race is not the main topic

    Just let it go Be2

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    calling people accurately a racist isn't saying they should be hated... it's stating a fact about a person

    like saying a tree creates oxygen and lava is too hot to touch

    you can go against these observations but that won't change the actual fact that white supremacy is a real thriving phenomenon that ruins people's lives

    white supremacy is a real problem yes, but seeing how I and a lot kids were treated and how a lot of black people think of whites, if it was the other way around and there was black supremacy were things going to be different? what I'm saying is yes, a lot of the white community is extremely, but are other communities different? I just don't want to feed hate with more hate

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    DELETE BACKLAVA

    Just let it go Be2

    I hate leaving replies unanswered tho

  • Dec 29, 2021
    be2sane

    anyway let's not derail the convo, race is not the main topic

    you're right lets talk about the movie ๐Ÿค

  • Dec 29, 2021
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    be2sane

    I hate leaving replies unanswered tho

    LET IT GOOOOO LOL WTF

  • Dec 29, 2021
    DIKALISM

    white supremacy is a real problem yes, but seeing how I and a lot kids were treated and how a lot of black people think of whites, if it was the other way around and there was black supremacy were things going to be different? what I'm saying is yes, a lot of the white community is extremely, but are other communities different? I just don't want to feed hate with more hate

    don't worry there is room for nuance, but yeah overall.. the world is heavy saturated with white countries dominating others and spreading their own superiority complexes through centuries of oppression and indoctrination, just look at all your favorite rappers and what they still have to deal with and rap about dealing with

  • Dec 29, 2021
    DELETE BACKLAVA

    LET IT GOOOOO LOL WTF

    ight