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    herald

    once again, ur not engaging anything i said about the quality of his hits in good faith

    and morally, once again - i never said it was likely max would split for that very reason. but if getting out of prison means trying to better urself, then distancing from predators is part of that process. and even the details of the crime you're describing are contentious; u seem to be implying max intended for a murder to occur.

    jumping to false equivalencies bout stars wars of all things tells me everything i needa know bout this interaction ✌️

    but if getting out of prison means trying to better urself

    when have any of you (if it don't apply let it fly) rap fans ever truly wanted that from a rapper when they got out of jail lmao.

    niggas was mad at bobby shmurda for dancing lolololololol

  • insertcoolnamehere

    but if getting out of prison means trying to better urself

    when have any of you (if it don't apply let it fly) rap fans ever truly wanted that from a rapper when they got out of jail lmao.

    niggas was mad at bobby shmurda for dancing lolololololol

    i know i want it for max, so theres that.

    and bobby jus flailed everything about his release whether he was returning to music or keeping out of trouble re: inflammatory statements. but i 4 one dont mind him just continuing to be safe/posting on ig.

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    herald

    once again, ur not engaging anything i said about the quality of his hits in good faith

    and morally, once again - i never said it was likely max would split for that very reason. but if getting out of prison means trying to better urself, then distancing from predators is part of that process. and even the details of the crime you're describing are contentious; u seem to be implying max intended for a murder to occur.

    jumping to false equivalencies bout stars wars of all things tells me everything i needa know bout this interaction ✌️

    wym quality of hits?

    i just checked, No Stylist was 2018, so i’d say that was his last real hit. not far off from 2017, but still.

    French hasn’t been the reason a song was a hit outside of like 2-3 songs 10-15 years ago, he’s just been on hit songs that other people made hits for the most part. but that’s always been the case, it’s not a decline in the quality of his hits.

    but your previous post was talking about their music relationship like Max B is out here looking to top the Billboard Hot 100 lol Max B couldn’t give less of a s*** whether French Montana is a certified hitmaker

    & you put a really big “if” here. why do you think Max is trying to better himself or distance himself from predators? he still hangs with the Coke Boys, that alone shows he doesn’t care about that. if you’re saying you wouldn’t keep French Montana around, that’s cool, but French Montana wouldn’t be around you in the first place, so it’s a garbage hypothetical.

    it’s not a false equivalency, and it’s not related to any nerd s*** about Star Wars. if you took the time to actually read the words on your screen, you’d realize the point is about how dumb it is to say “someone known to associate with violence would never associate with sexual violence”, because that sentiment severely diminishes the harm caused by any non-sexual violence

  • insertcoolnamehere

    but if getting out of prison means trying to better urself

    when have any of you (if it don't apply let it fly) rap fans ever truly wanted that from a rapper when they got out of jail lmao.

    niggas was mad at bobby shmurda for dancing lolololololol

    aside from Bobby (which it still boggles my mind people let him flop), Gunna’s the only recent* rapper off the top of my head to come home & not associate with the same stuff that got him locked up in the first place. but he was also never really part of the gang s*** that was allegedly going on, he was just close to the people who allegedly were part of it. so i don't even consider that much of a “betterment” since he wasn’t doing anything before either.

  • Capri

    What is Karen civil famous for? Every time I see her name it’s always something negative

    longtime hip hop artist manager / music exec

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    sabic sabion sab

    wym quality of hits?

    i just checked, No Stylist was 2018, so i’d say that was his last real hit. not far off from 2017, but still.

    French hasn’t been the reason a song was a hit outside of like 2-3 songs 10-15 years ago, he’s just been on hit songs that other people made hits for the most part. but that’s always been the case, it’s not a decline in the quality of his hits.

    but your previous post was talking about their music relationship like Max B is out here looking to top the Billboard Hot 100 lol Max B couldn’t give less of a s*** whether French Montana is a certified hitmaker

    & you put a really big “if” here. why do you think Max is trying to better himself or distance himself from predators? he still hangs with the Coke Boys, that alone shows he doesn’t care about that. if you’re saying you wouldn’t keep French Montana around, that’s cool, but French Montana wouldn’t be around you in the first place, so it’s a garbage hypothetical.

    it’s not a false equivalency, and it’s not related to any nerd s*** about Star Wars. if you took the time to actually read the words on your screen, you’d realize the point is about how dumb it is to say “someone known to associate with violence would never associate with sexual violence”, because that sentiment severely diminishes the harm caused by any non-sexual violence

    i mean exactly wat i said. u tryna "but still" a mediocre rap caviar tier track from almost a decade ago that obviously went big of because of the drake feature. u gotta be a stan fr cus no one is checking for french montana in 2026

    ..and no, u were the one to bring up their continued music relationship as something crucial for max's career, not me. ive heard of moving the goalpost before but now u tryna switch who kicked the ball

    and for the upteenth time, i never suggested it was likely that max will or wants to distance himself. that reading comprehension kicking ur ass. i'm aware he doesn't want to, but it's equally conjecture to suggest he's aware of the charges (however likely). max been on good behavior all throughout his sentence and vocal about his mindset in interviews re: staying out of trouble/taking care of his family. if its just lipservice thats fine, im jus holding him to his word. so if thats a bad hypothetical, then "multimillionaire rapper doesn't want to be around the average person he doesnt know" is an even worse non sequitur

    ur last paragraph is just more bad faith, senseless word salad

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    herald

    i mean exactly wat i said. u tryna "but still" a mediocre rap caviar tier track from almost a decade ago that obviously went big of because of the drake feature. u gotta be a stan fr cus no one is checking for french montana in 2026

    ..and no, u were the one to bring up their continued music relationship as something crucial for max's career, not me. ive heard of moving the goalpost before but now u tryna switch who kicked the ball

    and for the upteenth time, i never suggested it was likely that max will or wants to distance himself. that reading comprehension kicking ur ass. i'm aware he doesn't want to, but it's equally conjecture to suggest he's aware of the charges (however likely). max been on good behavior all throughout his sentence and vocal about his mindset in interviews re: staying out of trouble/taking care of his family. if its just lipservice thats fine, im jus holding him to his word. so if thats a bad hypothetical, then "multimillionaire rapper doesn't want to be around the average person he doesnt know" is an even worse non sequitur

    ur last paragraph is just more bad faith, senseless word salad

    ?? we’re talking about French Montana here, he doesn’t have more than like 3 songs that are hits because of him. the song being big because of Drake is already implied

    & yea i said that to say French never left Max B behind the whole time he was locked up no matter how famous he got, so Max B has no reason to want to cut ties with him

    you’re talking about a lot of hypotheticals for whether Max B would care about things French has done, but at the end of the day, they’re just hypotheticals. Max B doesn’t share your moral compass & he never will.

    and you’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid responding to the last paragraph of what i said. first it was “lol star wars?” then “bad faith” it’s obvious you skimmed those sentences at best while accusing me of struggling with reading comprehension. ridiculous.

  • sabic sabion sab

    ?? we’re talking about French Montana here, he doesn’t have more than like 3 songs that are hits because of him. the song being big because of Drake is already implied

    & yea i said that to say French never left Max B behind the whole time he was locked up no matter how famous he got, so Max B has no reason to want to cut ties with him

    you’re talking about a lot of hypotheticals for whether Max B would care about things French has done, but at the end of the day, they’re just hypotheticals. Max B doesn’t share your moral compass & he never will.

    and you’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid responding to the last paragraph of what i said. first it was “lol star wars?” then “bad faith” it’s obvious you skimmed those sentences at best while accusing me of struggling with reading comprehension. ridiculous.

    you’d realize the point is about how dumb it is to say “someone known to associate with violence would never associate with sexual violence”, because that sentiment severely diminishes the harm caused by any non-sexual violence

    • never said anything close to that quote. complete bs
    • never implied max was innocent or that his crimes were less egregious by comparison
    • max has at least reckoned with his past violence and done his time, whereas french has paid out settlements to avoid pr ramifications and remains a bad influence, creatively and morally

    again, senseless word salad and in bad faith bc ure jus continuing to try n put words in my mouth for a strawman after ive reiterated my actual words/stance multiple times

    everything else in your latest response is just attempts at rebuttals that're even worse than the last and ultimately a waste of breath. we goin in circles atp