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  • Sep 10, 2020

    Which is also why 4:44 was so great as he could see and watch the rap game from an outside perspective and taking more of a "teacher"-role dropping wisdom instead wanting to be nr 1.

    He came to terms with his legacy and doesn't need to prove anything anymore. I see Nas heading the same route but Eminem stuck somewhere in between.

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    Ur brain always work like this?

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    eminem is trash

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    This rap fanfic ?

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    Never posting agai

    Ur brain always work like this?

  • Sep 10, 2020

    Rap game, crack game, ain’t that different ya know

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    Hmm

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    Never posting agai

    Ur brain always work like this?

    this is actually a good thread

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    It might be true, 4:44 was definitely the right approach for him at that point (whatever the perspective he had actually was)

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    Never posting agai

    Ur brain always work like this?

    this is why we can't have good things!

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    Dinner with Jay-Z

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    Teal_

    this is actually a good thread

    No it isn't op is just extrapolating nonsense from the fact Jay z went from a trendy pseudoart album to a mature classically inspired rap album

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    aLIEN

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    Never posting agai

    Ur brain always work like this?

    “Work” is not the word id use

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    Never posting agai

    No it isn't op is just extrapolating nonsense from the fact Jay z went from a trendy pseudoart album to a mature classically inspired rap album

    Yeah let's just forget the fact that he became a billionaire between those two albums and act like music is not a secondary (probably not even that) priority for him nowadays.

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    eminem is trash

    Kamikaze was better than anything his peers (Jay and Nas) have dropped since their primes

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    tweezy

    Yeah let's just forget the fact that he became a billionaire between those two albums and act like music is not a secondary (probably not even that) priority for him nowadays.

    You understand that your post implies Jay z cared about his music before mchg right

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    Never posting agai

    No it isn't op is just extrapolating nonsense from the fact Jay z went from a trendy pseudoart album to a mature classically inspired rap album

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    Plankton

    Kamikaze was better than anything his peers (Jay and Nas) have dropped since their primes

    I'm surprised you're not roasted for this take yet 😂

    Jokes aside as more of an Em Stan I prefer 4:44 over Kamikaze but rest of Jay solo albums since '09 are just eh.

  • Sep 10, 2020
    Kendrik lama

    I'm surprised you're not roasted for this take yet 😂

    Jokes aside as more of an Em Stan I prefer 4:44 over Kamikaze but rest of Jay solo albums since '09 are just eh.

    I’m surprised too. I really fw Kamikaze tho. Not all the way through but the standout tracks are really good imo

  • Lmao good one op

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    You understand that your post implies Jay z cared about his music before mchg right

    Yes I am fully aware of that, and I think he did care about music to a bigger extent than what he does now.

    Look at the producers and artists he got for that album (Frank, JT, Nas, Ross, Beyonce, Pharrell, Timbaland, Mike Will, Boi-1da.. etc) and compare it to 4:44. It was also only two years after he and Ye dropped WTT, so yes he did care a lot more about music at that time.

    Now I'm not saying it was it was his top priority back then either, obviously it wasn't and he didn't need to prove anything by then. But considering he has a family now, officially is a billionaire etc, I do think that album was the "last one" we got from him while also "in the game". That's just my take on it.